[CQ-Contest] Cheating with Technology

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> If the RF is coming from North Dakota, how can you say that 
> contacts with such a station are not from North Dakota?  Why 
> does it matter where the operator is?

The "contacts" are as much with the operator as with the "station."
The operator is an integral part of the station and without the 
operator (at least until CW Skimmer develops the ability to answer 
the calls it hears) there is no contact.  

I know it has been popular to separate the operator and station 
for HF purposes but they are not separated for other purposes. 
For example, one may not contact a "repeater" for credit in a VHF 
contest nor can one claim credit for contacts through repeaters 
(except for satellite contacts in Field Day) in VHF/UHF contests. 
Similarly, contacts with "operators" using remote access techniques 
to reach a repeater are not permitted in VHF/UHF contests.  A remote 
station is no different than a "repeater" with VoIP or other non-RF 
or non-Amateur means of access.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Hal Offutt
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: cq-contest reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheating with Technology
> 
> 
> N7ZG wrote:
> 
> > On Remoting - If the transmitter, receiver and antennas are 
> within the 
> > designated station circle then why should anyone
> > care where the operator is located.   Managing communication
> > latencies is a technical challenge.  Does it advance the
> > radio art?   Maybe.   It might likely break down some of the
> > economic barriers to building large stations.   This would be
> > a good thing that advances contesting and dxing.   Does it
> > negatively impact the value of operator skill?   I think not.
> 
> W4TV replied:
> 
> Because the operator is as much a part of the station as are 
> the transmitters, receivers, antennas and computers.  Part of 
> building a station in an advantaged location is being there 
> to operate it - not operating from somewhere else.  If one is 
> going to have a station in KL7 during ARRL DX, one should be 
> in KL7 during ARRL DX <G>.  If one is going to have a station 
> in North Dakota during RTTY Roundup, one should be in North 
> Dakota during RTTY Roundup.
> 
> 
> W1NN comments:
> 
> If the RF is coming from North Dakota, how can you say that 
> contacts with such a station are not from North Dakota?  Why 
> does it matter where the operator is?
> 
> If I make contacts in SS by remotely operating a station in 
> ND while I am physically in Ohio, there are only two 
> conceivable possibilities for my QTH: either ND or OH.  Would 
> it make any sense at all for me to give my section as OH?
> 
> I don't see what "advantaged location" has to do with the 
> issue of remote 
> operating.  Is there a difference if I remotely operate (from Ohio) a 
> station in PA compared with one in ND?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Hal W1NN
> 
> 
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