[CQ-Contest] Growing New Contesters with LOTW - suddenly it's 1977 again

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

Are you saying that Wayne is or was the reason that LotW isn't being
accepted by more contesters?

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:30 PM
To: Alfred Frugoli
Cc: Robert Naumann; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Growing New Contesters with LOTW - suddenly
it's 1977again


You may be right, and if Wayne, N7NG was still there, I suspect that would
be enough to sink the idea right there.  I thought that this might be an
easy, probably unacknowledged baby step in the direction of rationally
easing the requirement a bit, one that had the potential of having big
dividends for contesting.;

73, Pete

At 11:25 AM 5/27/2008, Alfred Frugoli wrote:
>Pete,
>
>What I don't see is how a cross checked log from a contest sponsor meets
>the current ARRL/LOTW security standards.  The log has not been encrypted
>by the log submitter.  It was sent as a plain text (ok cabrillo) file to
>the contest sponsor, who makes an assumption that the data is from someone
>in the real world who actually made these contacts.  Yes, the contacts are
>cross checked (just as they are in LOTW), but it's the verification of the
>original sender that is missing.
>
>73 de Al, KE1FO
>
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>
>On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Pete Smith
><<mailto:n4zr at contesting.com>n4zr at contesting.com> wrote:
>At 09:55 AM 5/27/2008, Alfred Frugoli wrote:
>I do, however, see the possibility of things going the other way.  At least
>for ARRL sponsored contests, all electronic logs have to go through LOTW,
>with a special tag in the file that marks them as contest logs.  Then ARRL
>exports the contest data from LOTW and does their electronic massaging to
>get final scores.  CQWW could do the same.  The catch is that every entrant
>sending an electronic log would have to be signed up for LOTW and develop
>the skills to get their log encrypted and uploaded.  As we've seen from the
>initial rollout of LOTW, there is a fair amount of resistance to the signup
>process, especially in countries outside the US.
>
>I too hope that LOTW becomes more functional - I'd love to get my WAZ
Award,
>which I have all the QSO's for through LOTW.  I just don't see any of this
>coming any time soon
>
>
>
>I guess I should have expected this topic to devolve into another
>fruitless round of LOTW-bashing.
>
>But seriously, guys -- with good will on both sides and a minimal
>additional effort, the way to implement this is to get the contest
>sponsors and LOTW to work together.  The contest sponsor has a file
>containing all cross-check-verified QSOs; how hard can it be to put that
>data in a format that LOTW can accept, and for LOTW to enter it in its
>database just like any other data transfer from another trusted server?
>
>73, Pete N4ZR
>
>
>

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