[CQ-Contest] [YCCC] ClusterJoin... Mix your Telnet Cluster Spots and CWSkimmer spots into same application.

[Gerry Hull]

You are misunderstanding.   Spots do not go from skimmer.  They come from
Skimmer.
No controversy here.  Skimmer feeds spots to the application -- your cluster
feeds spots.
they all go to the local station.  NO Skimmer on the net.. that was the
whole idea.
Spots are NOT circulated among the various clusters connected.

K1TTT brought up the issue of when the end station does a DX spot,people
would not like
multiple spots flooding the network... I fixed that... only 1 cluster can
get spots now.

73, Gerry

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Neal Campbell <nealk3nc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gerry
>
> I might be misunderstanding but as a cluster sysop I do not want
> skimmer spots flooding into the cluster network. I am not sure other
> sysops would want it either.
>
> If I understand how some MMs will be using skimmer, they will likely
> have a SDR connected to a vertical and have a computer switch bands
> every 10-15 minutes to load up 48-192 Khz of "spots" and send them to
> the stations on their lan. If you are proposing that these also go to
> a cluster, that means we will see 400 spots every 10-15 minutes per
> skimmer operation coming into (even one) cluster. This is pretty
> horrendous in my opinion.
>
> Am I misunderstanding your software? If you just have "local" telnet
> connections receiving the combined spots then I am fine but if they go
> to a cluster I definitely am not sure its good.
>
> Neal Campbell
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> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Gerry Hull <gerry at yccc.org> wrote:
> > Software has been updated.  It will only allow one cluster to receive DX
> > spots.  It can be set using the SPOTCLUSTER command, otherwise, it is the
> > 1st cluster the user is connected to.
> >
> > 73, Gerry
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Gerry Hull <gerry at w1ve.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Correct.. use this to connect skimmer and ONE internet cluster.  Don't
> use
> >> it for two clusters.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, Gerry
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:00 PM, David Robbins K1TTT <k1ttt at arrl.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > DANGER!  DO NOT send the same outgoing spot to multiple nodes, this
> can
> >> > result in your spots showing up multiple times around the world and
> get
> >> > sysops annoyed at you.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > David Robbins K1TTT
> >> > e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> >> > web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> >> > AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> >> > > bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> >> > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 21:40
> >> > > To: CQ-Contest; Tom - N1MM; yccc at yccc.org
> >> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] ClusterJoin... Mix your Telnet Cluster Spots
> and
> >> > > CWSkimmer spots into same application.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.w1ve.com/ClusterJoin.zip
> >> > >
> >> > > This is free software.
> >> > >
> >> > > What it is:   It's a TCP Daemon that listens for connections on a
> port
> >> > (23
> >> > > is the default, Telnet) and connects to other servers, and mixes the
> >> > > content.
> >> > >
> >> > > Once you've connected, you can then connect to as many telnet spot
> >> > sources
> >> > > as you would like.
> >> > >
> >> > > I dreamed this up as a way to connect CW Skimmer and an external
> >> cluster
> >> > > to
> >> > > N1MM at the same time....  Therefore, get the spots from Skimmer
> along
> >> > > with
> >> > > everything from the net.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Example:
> >> > >
> >> > > ------   K1TTT.NET (for example)
> >> > >
> >>  /
> >> > > N1MM setup to connect to ClusterJoin (locahost)
> >> > >
>   \
> >> > >
> >> > > ------- CW SKIMMER on localhost:7300
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > There is no limit to the number of clients that can connect to
> >> > > ClusterJoin,
> >> > > as well as no limits on the number of clusters you can connect to.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think, perhaps, it's silly to connect more than one real-world
> >> cluster,
> >> > > unless you want  to...
> >> > >
> >> > > All traffic sent to ClusterJoin  goes to all connected telnet
> sessions.
> >> > > you must log in to each session.
> >> > >
> >> > > You'lll get instructions when you log in.
> >> > >
> >> > > ClusterJoin.exe is a 14Kb file, and is a Windows Console
> application.
> >> > > Just leave it running and minimize.
> >> > > It is a .Net application and requires the .Net Framework 2.0 be
> >> installed
> >> > > on
> >> > > your system.  You can get that from Microsoft's site if you don't
> have
> >> > it.
> >> > >
> >> > > No install -- just extract ClusterJoin.exe from the Zip file and go.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm not on the CWSkimmer reflector, so some one please pass it on.
> >> > >
> >> > > Enjoy!
> >> > >
> >> > > 73, Gerrry W1VE
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> >
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