[CQ-Contest] SS SSB And Your Callsign In The Exchange

[David Levine]

Forget the rules - no one is disputing what the rules say. It's plain as the
nose on our faces. I haven't seen one person challenge the rules are not
explicit. 

 

Cabrillo is the accepted format that indicates the exchange. I thought I was
providing an accurate view of the ARRL SS Cabrillo file which needs to be
submitted but if you have one that shows otherwise and it shows the call as
part of the exchange, offer it up. 

 

ARRL SS Example:

                              --------info sent------- -------info
rcvd--------

QSO: freq  mo date       time call       nr   p ck sec call       nr   p ck
sec

QSO: ***** ** yyyy-mm-dd nnnn ********** nnnn a nn aaa ********** nnnn a nn
aaa

QSO: 21042 CW 1997-11-01 2102 N5KO          3 B 74 STX K9ZO          2 A 69
IL

 

 

ARRL VHF Example:

                              --------info sent------- -------info
rcvd--------
QSO: freq  mo date       time call              grid   call
grid 
QSO: ***** ** yyyy-mm-dd nnnn *************     ****** *************
******
QSO:    50 PH 1997-09-13 1804 NJ2L              FN12fr KB2DMK
FN12


If you look at the 2 examples, the SS Cabrillo data does not have the
callsign as part of the exchange any different then the VHF example does.
The VHF contest does not require the call sign in the exchange. 

 

But I've think I've explained this the best I can and if folks don't look
past the rule, which no one seems to be challenging, and look at the logic
of it and the required file the ARRL wants to have submitted to them, it
seems the 2 don't match.

David - K2DSL

 

 

From: John Brosnahan -- W0UN [mailto:shr at swtexas.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:24 PM
To: David Levine
Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS SSB And Your Callsign In The Exchange

 

At 17-11-08 16:24, you wrote:



I think folks are taking the comments too literally. I think the
requirement/rule that it be part of the exchange is unnecessary. We've
already, as operator a communicating with operator b, provided that piece of
information.  The comments you are receiving are exactly that it seems
redundant in the rules and the rules should be changed.

I never ignored the exchange and provided on each and every QSO I made. It's
the requirement. It doesn't mean I and others don't think it should be
reviewed and considered for removal. 

And if the N1MM generated cabrillo output is an indication, it isn't part of
the exchange as I discussed in my reply that you clipped. 
The order doesn't matter, as already discussed, but the call sign, as part
of the report, is NOT in the cabrillo file. Lets look at the spec from
http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/qso-template.html . below is a snippet.
Not sure how it will come out to folks email but they can see it on the
referenced page.



Cabrillo is not the sponsor of the contest, the ARRL is, so the Cabrillo
output is not an indication.  Here is the ARRL rule on the exchange and the
example.  Look closely at the example, it illustrates the rule perfectly.  I
don't see how it could be any plainer.

If you don't want this in the rules then lobby to change it.  Others seem
perfectly happy to maintain the tradition of the rule and even find the
"extra" call sign to be a benefit.

1.     Exchange: The required exchange consists of: 

1.     4.1. A consecutive serial number; 

2.     4.2. Precedence; 

1.     4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less); 

2.     4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output); 

3.     4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output); 

4.     4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited; 

5.     4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op; 

6.     4.2.6. "S" for School Club; 

3.     4.3 Your Callsign; 

4.     4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);


5.     4.5. ARRL/RAC Section 

6.      (Example: NU1AW would respond to W1AW's call by sending: W1AW 123 B
NU1AW 71 CT, which indicates QSO number 123, B for Single Op High Power,
NU1AW, first licensed in 1971, and in the Connecticut section.)