[CQ-Contest] Driving at 4AM

[w1md at cfl.rr.com]

Nobody's chipping away at anything David. Are you 'forced' to submit your logs??? Have you EVER been forced to submit your logs?

When you submit your logs you are agreeing to abide by the rules as set by the contest administrator...geeze...is it any clearer than this? "IF" the rules say that logs will be available to all...and you don't care to have your log in the public venue (your choice)...then don't submit it...which you did. 

If you want to compete and 'be in the running' for the top slot, then you agree to abide by the rules...what ever they may be.

W1MD


---- David Kopacz <david.kopacz at aspwebhosting.com> wrote: 
> Of course I did nothing wrong. 
> 
> But public opinion does not make it right for CQ Magazine to publish my
> personal property without my consent. That IS the issue. It is solely a
> principle issue, nothing more nothing less. For those that think I have
> a hidden agenda, I feel sorry for you.
> 
> I suspect if CQ asked, most would not object to opening their logs, but
> they aren't asking, they are forcing it upon people.
> 
> The only reason I elected to withhold my log is because I am likely one
> of the few that could impact the adjudication process and even that's
> questionable, however, the statement is solid. What impact would ten
> 6Y1V sized logs withheld have on the adjudication process?
> 
> For those that worried about people being able to put me us the log
> without having worked us, I waited until after the submission deadline
> to make my announcement. For those that think we must be cheating, I
> will release the logs after the contest results are published.
> Basically, every single person that publicly denounced my action holds
> no merit. Why? Because they think the issue MUST be something other than
> personal freedom.
> 
> We have already seen the results of opening logs. Accusations of
> cheating, theft of strategy, to name a few. For what? So a few people
> can sleep better at night?
> 
> Everywhere we turn today, someone is chipping away at our freedom of
> choice while most standby idle and do nothing.
> 
> When there are no more choices and everything is decided for us, then
> what?
> 
> David ~ KY1V
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:26 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Driving at 4AM
> 
> Now *that's* over the top!  Slavery?  Give me a break!
> 
> I think I read the same public commentary as you did, David, and I
> thought 
> it was almost uniformly opposed to your position.  Since any
> controversial 
> topic on this reflector tends to draw the vociferous on both sides, that
> 
> suggests to me that the balance of contester opinion is not on your
> side.
> 
> I'm not suggesting that you did anything wrong, just that you *are*
> wrong 
> on this one.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:54 PM 2/10/2009, David Kopacz wrote:
> >I suggest it is more likely:
> >
> >89% didn't take the poll
> >6% favor open logs
> >3% don't care
> >2% opposed
> >
> >Even if the poll on contesting.com were an accurate representation of
> >the contesting population, one must keep in mind that just because
> >something is popular, doesn't make it right (slavery comes to mind
> here)
> >
> >The results are likely similar to the response I received after
> >announcing withholding my logs from CQ Magazine.
> >
> >Publicly, a few squeaky wheels shouted loudly against my action, while
> >privately via email, more than twice as many applauded my decision to
> >take a stand.
> >
> >I'll be more than happy to release my logs for inspection to the
> >paranoid, the accusers, the naysayers and those that simply think there
> >must be "more to the story", once the results are published.
> >
> >Mission accomplished.
> >
> >David ~ KY1V
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> >[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of VE5ZX
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:32 AM
> >To: 'CQ-Contest com'
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Driving at 4AM
> >
> > > Likewise, I continue on philosophical and political grounds to
> oppose
> >the
> > > concept of "open logs" as is currently being debated.  That doesn't
> >mean I
> >
> >The current survey on contesting.com suggests opposition to open logs
> >for
> >any reason maybe a minority opinion.
> >
> >61% favor open logs, 24% don't care and 8% are opposed.
> >
> >
> >... Sylvan
> >
> >Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> >Saskatoon, SK
> >
> >
> >
> >
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