[CQ-Contest] PU2FAN apologizes about selfspoting.

Wed Feb 25 18:51:37 PST 2009

The problems with passing it ONLY to the contest sponsors are:

1. long delayed feedback, pu2fan could have participated and self spotted in
many months worth of contests before anyone from the sponsor even looked at
the data.
2. indirect feedback in some cases... hopefully once the sponsor looked at
the data they would contact him directly, otherwise the only feedback would
be the dq notice in the magazine almost a year later.
3. no public notification that someone IS watching... how many notices have
you seen about reclassification or dq's due to spotting or use of spots??  

My way the peer feedback is direct and timely.  Hopefully he learned a good
lesson and will be back in the next contest, sans packet.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Smith [mailto:mi0lll at btinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:42
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PU2FAN apologizes about selfspoting.
> I am sorry guys but publicly accusing someone of cheating on this
> reflector and blacken
> there name is totally wrong, in the case of this young PY station he may
> likely chose not to enter
> another contest because of it, and we wonder why there is no young blood
> coming into this hobby ?.
> What Dave is doing is an excellent job however the info should be passed
> onto the contest committee to help
> them with log checking / deciding category winners, same goes for anyone
> else who has a query over a stations
> contest effort, send the evidence to the contest community and let them
> decide to deduct points or disqualify the station.
> I have never self spot, no do i believe 95% of the contest community has
> ever done either and think it is just wrong, i do not know
> the PY station or how well he has done in his category, i am going to
> assume he is not going to be a category winner or even
> come close, so what difference does it make if he self spots or not to
> increase his activity and enjoyment of the contest.
> Obviously if it was a serious effort it should be up to the contest
> committee to decide to deduct or disqualify and not us.
> Chris MI0LLL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Luc, PY8AZT" <py8azt at dxbrasil.net>
> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:29 AM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] PU2FAN apologizes about selfspoting.
> Hi all,
> Just to give a feedback on the report of the spots K1TTT, where
> indicated PU2FAN as a selfspotter. PU2FAN is an operator of 18 years,
> licensed for less then one year, has learned CW  by himself.  He works
> with a CB transceiver converted to 40m.
> We contacted him about the self-spots, and he really did not know it was
> against the rules of the contest. He apologizes about what happened.
> --
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> 73, Luc
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> PT7AG (also PY8AZT, PX8C, ZZ8Z)
> LABRE, ARRL, Uirapuru DX Club&  Araucaria DX Group Member
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