[CQ-Contest] License

[VR2BrettGraham]

RX9TX replied to
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/cq-contest/2009-June/085504.html

>Its  nice  to see someone that eager to care about poor Russians. What
>are trying to do, to question all operations made by Russian hams last
>decades?
>
>Leave demonizing Russians to CNN and Foxnews, it's their job :)

No demonization here.  RA3CO has brought upon to all
radiosport - not just on Russians - a bit of an issue, that of high
scorers operating without licences.  All I did was look a little into
how this could happen.

>What  about  RA3CO  he still persists he was told he can use station's
>owner  call  from  the  very  first operation, and I see no reason for
>disbelief.

Then RA3CO can produce something in writing from the Colombian
authorities to support his claim.  So far he has not & the Colombian
authorities instead have said he was not licensed.  QED, I think.

>What  about  other  Russians,  the  answer  seems  obvious  - they get
>temporary licences.

How?  Your country I doubt has many reciprocal agreements & none
of your citizens can use CEPT in any country to operate.  That limits
you to those places that look at an amateur licence from somewhere &
satisfy itself as all countries' licensing requirements stem from ITU-RR,
they say okay, as our license also based on those requirements, we
issue one of ours as you have one from home.  VR does this.  It looks
like EA does this.  There are undoubtedly others.

>V> Seems I was the only one asking that question.
>V> Proof of legitimacy must be coming to radiosport soon.
>
>Thats  alright,  just please note that even CEPT and US licence do not
>allow  you  to  operate from FK, FO, FR/B, FR/E, FR/G, FR/J, FR/T, FT,
>FW,  JW,  JX,  3Y, ZB2, you will still need a temporary licence. Seems
>logical  to  ask  for  "Proof of legitimacy" for all recent operations
>from  all  these  "CEPT"  places  too. Not to mention all other places
>outside of CEPT and IARP unions.

Wrong.  Under CEPT & with a US licence _and_ US citizenship,
then one can operate from the bits of F that F has extended CEPT
to, which according to what F told ERO includes bits above that you
say are not covered.  Norway allows CEPT in JW but not JX.  Of
that list, I believe only 3Y & ZB are not possible with CEPT.  Please,
these are facts, get them straight OM.

Unlike CEPT, IARP is an actual permit, which participating states
issue to their citizens.  The way CEPT can be abused is not
possible with IARP.

But after the RA3CO incident, I would suggest it does not matter
how people operating abroad claim to be legitimate, what matters
is that they are legitimate.  It also does not matter where they are
from, it should apply to everyone.

73, ex-VR2BG/p.