[CQ-Contest] Xtreme Category: the sky is NOT falling

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

If I work a station in the contest who says he's in Pottslyvania, and
another who says he's in Mooslyvania... but all the time the operators are
sitting comfortably in their home QTH of Frostbite Falls, MN, which is
clearly in a different DXCC entity... the QSO's will not count under current
DXCC rules.

How would I know this if I get my cards back and send them in for DXCC
credit prior to the contest results coming out revealing the truth?

How would I know this if the cards come back to me and the operators do NOT
indicate that the QSL's might be ineligible for DXCC?  (They may not know,
and/or they may not care)

Let me be clear:  I have no problem with encouraging innovation when it
comes to operating remote stations, and a contest category to encourage this
innovation ought to be a good thing.  

But based on what I'm reading here -- especially considering that what
people say they heard at the Dayton announcement does not jive with the
official announcement (did that many people misunderstand?  Or did something
change in the interim?) -- it seems clear to me that this category, as
officially announced, has some serious loopholes and concerns.  

If it's going to be done, why not do it right the first time?

73

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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:56 AM
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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Xtreme Category: the sky is NOT falling

Maybe follks just to debate this stuff.

Contesting, DXCC, whatever, is based on the presumption of entrant/applicant
honesty.
Are there cheaters?  Sure.  There has always been cheaters.  If someone
fakes their
way to DXCC or DXCC Honor Roll, does it diminish YOUR accomplishments?  That
is your call,
but there is zero doubt that folks have cheated.  Have you given up on DXCC?

So why would you give up on Contesting?

I would hope that if you enter the Xtreme category and work "a new one,"
that you would,
ON YOUR OWN, realize that the QSO may not be  "valid" for DXCC, depending on
"how" 
made and completed the contact.

You don't think guys have used "their buddies" antenna and receiver via
telephone to work
"a new one?"  Get real.  This has happened since the days of a tin can and a
waxed string.

If you feel that this new category, which has not even been run yet, and we
have no idea
of how popular it will be, will destroy you enthusiasm for contesting/DXing,
then it is my
opinion that you are not recognizing what has been taking place "forever."
The only thing
that has changed is that now those SDR/internet/linux guys have a legal
place to play.

I think it will be "fun" to see what folks come up with...just how inventive
are they?  Is this
"real" ham radio?  Who knows...that's your call.  Personally, I agree that I
would not have
much enjoyment entering such a category, but then most guys dont' like "my"
category of
entry either (QRP), but I have lots of fun with it and I am thankful that
the category 
exists....and I bet nobody doesn't get on because of it.

Formally recognizing and promoting what already exists is NOT changing the
world.

I encourage everybody to continue the discussion; I am sure not the be-all
and end-all
source of knowledge (or opinion) on this (or any) topic.  It is sure
interesting reading.

de Doug KR2Q
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