[CQ-Contest] [RTTY] I just have to ask

[Prasad]

And not to forget the cool applications like Faros which automatically
listen to all the NCDXF beacon frequencies and generate a chart for
showing best propagation times from each beacon area per band. A
really invaluable tool for planning contest operations too.

73 de Prasad VU2PTT.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net> wrote:
> With all due respect... the beacon network, as I recall, didn't get "shoved"
> into the digital sub-band; if anything, it was the other way around.
>
> Why are we even discussing the potential for moving the beacons?  Why do we
> even want to touch, let alone open, that can of worms?
>
> Should the beacon ops have claimed to "own" their frequencies?  No, because
> they don't.  Regardless, we all know where the beacon sub-band is on each
> band (or can find it out quickly enough) and should strive to avoid them if
> at all possible -- and minimize QRM if not.
>
> For crying out loud... we already have a (fortunately off the front page)
> thread on one of the QRZ.COM forums from N5PVL accusing CW operators of
> interfering with the digital mailboxes in the digital sub-band (and, in all
> fairness, vice-versa) during a previous contest.  Do we REALLY need to fire
> up the beacon ops and users as well?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:33 PM
> To: w0yk at msn.com; 'W0MU Mike Fatchett'
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com; rtty at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [RTTY] I just have to ask
>
>> The Beacon System doesn't own the frequencies they occupy
>> (all the time). OTOH, many of us greatly appreciate their
>> presence and make use of the propagation information
>> provided.  If the beacon service weren't seen as broadly
>> valuable, it would probably be QRM'd more.  My hope is that
>> we work together to keep the Beacon frequencies clear because
>> we choose to do so.
>
> Since the beacon network is CW, why isn't it moved to 14.000.0,
> 21.000.0, etc.?  Moving them to the bottom of the band, they
> provide a nice band edge marker and the multi-KW, multi-multi
> stations can worry about protecting the beacons during
> contests <G>.
>
> Like everything else that nobody wants in "their" back yard
> (including the 2 KHz wide quasi-commercial "mailboxes"), the
> beacon network gets shoved into the "digital" band ... they
> don't belong in the "digital" spectrum, much less the middle
> of it.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of J. Edward (Ed) Muns
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:44 AM
>> To: 'W0MU Mike Fatchett'
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com; rtty at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] I just have to ask
>>
>>
>> > Would using the beacon system to check propagation put you into the
>> > assisted category?
>>
>> No, because listening to the Beacon System or WWV solar
>> conditions is not directly finding potential QSOs for you.
>>
>> (Let's not start another heated thread about the Assisted vs.
>> Non-Assisted categories, hi!)
>>
>> > I am all for the beacon network.  What I don't like is the apparent
>> > feeling of ownership of the frequencies by the beacon
>> operators.  If
>> > someone can point me to the exact waivers and rulings by the FCC
>> > giving anyone exclusive
>> > right to the beacon frequencies I would appreciate it.
>>
>> The Beacon System doesn't own the frequencies they occupy
>> (all the time). OTOH, many of us greatly appreciate their
>> presence and make use of the propagation information
>> provided.  If the beacon service weren't seen as broadly
>> valuable, it would probably be QRM'd more.  My hope is that
>> we work together to keep the Beacon frequencies clear because
>> we choose to do so.
>>
>> Ed - W0YK
>>
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