[CQ-Contest] Callsign "appendages" in QSO party logs

David Levine david at levinecentral.com
Fri May 1 17:05:54 PDT 2009


There are 3 main concerns I've heard about this topic as I was also
interested and posted questions about it.

Concern 1: When a station is mobile, how can you quickly tell they have
moved to a new county that you might need? That is why they call CQ TEST
AB1CD/CTY AB1CD/CTY CQ . That is why the county is shown in the exchange

Concern 2: Some (?) Most (?) All (?) logging programs will not let you enter
(though you can force), 2 entries for the same same call sign. I use N1MM so
I know that won't work. Entering AB1CD 59 CTY1 is allowed. After logged,
when I enter AB1CD 59 CTY2 it says I have already logged it on that band.
Yes, I could force it to log it, but I think N1MM would show it as 0 points
in its scoring. If entered as AB1CD/P or /M then it would allow and properly
score another entry with a different exchange (county).

Concern 3: Electronic QSLing. If we need to log AB1CD as /P or /M or /CTY,
what is the other operator submitting their log to eQSL and LoTW? Are they
submitting their logs as just AB1CD and we need to change our your info
manually or by editing the file?

Also, you might not know the first time you log a station that they indeed
will be mobile, so you have them just as AB1CD the first time and then when
you see they are mobile, you now have a /P, etc for the same station.

The above are the main reasons I've heard about why we had the discussions.

K2DSL - David

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Tom Macon <tmacon at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Some questions with opinions sprinkled in (or maybe vice versa).
> It seems to be common practice to append  /M, /P or /9 (call area) to
> logged
> calls.  I'm wondering, what is the value of this?  I don't see that these
> appendages contain useful information, at least for WIQP.  If a station is
> mobile, he needs to state this as his entry category, so the log checker
> will know.  Or, if he roves multiple counties, this will show in his sent
> exchanges, so the checker will know.  For stations working the mobile, all
> they need to do is log the correct callsign and county.  It doesn't matter
> if the station worked is mobile or not - it doesn't affect category or
> scoring.  Am I missing something here?
> The need to append  /CTY (county) to the received callsign would seem to
> depend on a contester's logging program.  If the logging program won't
> allow
> the same callsign with different counties, then appending the county name
> to
> the call is a good work-around for logging roving stations.  But if the
> program *can* handle callsign-plus-county as a unique entity (I think most
> current ones do) then why would contesters need to bother with it?  This
> basically asks for the county to be entered twice.
> In addition, callsigns with appended information are a pain for log
> checking
> because they complicate duping and crosschecking.  My thought is to move
> toward eliminating callsign appendages where possible.  Log check software
> that reads the log files can/should strip them off unless they contain
> information that can't be found elsewhere.  Does this make sense?
> Do some Parties have rules that change this picture?  Comments?
> Tom Macon, K9BTQ
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