[CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?

[Julius Fazekas]

How productive is calling for a specific multiplier? I'm thinking not very or everyone would be doing it...

As to the later, it would depend on how you acted on that information, wouldn't it?

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
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Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3/100 #1875


--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Richard Zalewski <dick.w7zr at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Richard Zalewski <dick.w7zr at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
> To: "Julius Fazekas" <phriendly1 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com, "Robert Brandon" <rb at austin.rr.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 8:29 AM
> #3 Ok, where does this put me--- Late
> in the contest I call "CQ Contest Looking for Rhode
> Island"?  A Rhode Island station calls that has to be
> ok IMHO but I would guess that if someone came on freq and
> said there is a RI up 5 that would put me assisted or
> multi.  Right?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:47 AM,
> Julius Fazekas <phriendly1 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Using
> callbook names also can backfire... Some of us do not use
> our "legal" names. Some change things up just to
> keep folks honest or is it just to make it interesting? ;o)
> 
> 
> 73,
> Jul?
> 
> Julius Fazekas
> N2WN
> 
> Tennessee Contest Group
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> http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en
> 
> 
> Tennessee QSO Party
> http://www.tnqp.org/
> 
> Elecraft K2/100 #4455
> Elecraft K3/100 #366
> Elecraft K3/100 #1875
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Robert Brandon <rb at austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Robert Brandon <rb at austin.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
> 
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 3:25 PM
> 
> 
> 
> > 1.  IMHO, the callsign history
> > feature -- assuming you use only the data you
> > have accumulated -- is okay. I don't see that as
> very
> > different from going
> > to Dayton every year and getting to know a lot of
> 
> > people.  But you use it at
> > your own risk when folks do something like use
> "Ken" in
> > memoriam or operate
> > from a different state.
> >
> > Using the callbook is different.  If everybody used
> 
> > it, no one would copy
> > exchanges and that's an important part of the
> game. 
> >
> > 2.  The purest of the purists would say make no
> > changes to your log once the
> > event is over, but a much bigger majority say it's
> okay to
> 
> > check your log
> > before you send it in.  (Remember post contest
> > duping?)  Just use your own
> > notes.  So if the software makes it easier as you
> log
> > subsequent Qs, I'd say
> > that's okay.  But I think the post contest log
> 
> > checkers go a bit too far. 
> >
> > 3.  All of us get unsolicited info once in a
> > while.  Just don't solicit it.
> >
> >
> > Robert K5PI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> 
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]
> > On Behalf Of Art Boyars
> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:55 AM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> 
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
> >
> >  #1 is sort-of serious.  #2 is in the
> > angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin
> > category. #3 is mostly tongue sort-of in cheek.
> >
> >  1.  If it's OK to use "call history"
> files, is it OK
> 
> > to look up states in
> > the (on-line) callbook.  Why should one list of
> > historical data be OK, and
> > the other not?  (I did NOT look up anybody's
> state or
> > name in the 'Test.)
> >
> 
> > 2.  I worked a guy whose state I know.  And he
> > did indeed send that state
> > (to me AND to the guy who beat me out on the first
> > call).  When I worked him
> > on the second band, I knew his state would be a
> mult. 
> 
> > When I typed in his
> > call the logging software filled in the report for me,
> but
> > did not indicate
> > it was a new mult.  Hmmm?  Oh!  It says
> > "MD"  I must have entered his state
> 
> > as MD the first time.  I guess I was listening to my
> > report being sent while
> > I typed in his report, and unconsciously typed in my
> own
> > state.  No
> > problem.  I rolled back in the log and fixed his
> state
> 
> > in the first QSO, and
> > continued working the 'Test.
> >
> > Now, my own opinion is that anything I fix DURING the
> > contest is OK -- but I
> > had been considering errors that I recognized right
> 
> > away.  In this case, I
> > would not have noticed the error except for the
> fill-in
> > feature of the
> > logging software.
> >
> > 3.  Late in the 'Test I made a desperate jump to
> 40M
> > (which was already
> 
> > pretty dead by the time I started the 'Test).  I
> heard
> > somebody tuning up,
> > and a well-know station in GA called CQ NA.  I
> > listened for a moment, and
> > heard him get no answers.  So I called him by name,
> 
> > and said "You are vy
> > loud but nobody is here.  GL"
> >
> > Did I make him multi-op?  (He did keep calling
> > CQ.)  Should we never give
> > ANY info that might help the other guy, including
> "VY LOUD"
> 
> > or (as my buddy
> > N6XI once said to me) "P**S WEAK".  BTW, I
> reserve the
> > right to tell N3AM he
> > is very loud.  I think that from the top of his
> tower
> > John can see my
> > antenna ...if he looks down.
> 
> >
> > 73, Art K3KU
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