[CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update

w5ov at w5ov.com w5ov at w5ov.com
Wed Nov 24 12:27:41 PST 2010


Mark,

I am a member of the CQWW Committee.

Bob W5OV


> That's inventive but I don't think it's what the words say.  :-)
>
> If that's really what Bob meant, he or someone official needs to say so.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> "Bob Naumann" <W5OV at W5OV.COM> wrote:
>
>>The focus of this discussion has been directed at the least important
>>part
>>of the announcement.
>>
>>The most important part is:
>>
>>*Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are *not permitted
>>for any
>>category,*
>>
>>Remote skimmers in this context being "private" or deployed by one
>>station
>>in any category for its own use which would violate the 500m circle
>>rule.
>>Again, the point is that remote stuff is not permitted!!!
>>
>>I think it is fair to conclude that the listing of RBN is intended to
>>be as
>>a generic example - it is not exclusionary of other similar technology
>>"public" spotting network systems.
>>
>>I also think that the initial wording was chosen and intended to be
>>generic
>>without knowledge that by listing RBN was using a "brand name" and
>>conveyed
>>the exclusionary permission of only one specific spotting network.
>>
>>Let's try re-wording it this way:
>>
>>C. Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are not permitted
>>for
>>any category,
>>except for a Reverse Beacon Network (RBN or similar publicly available
>>aggregated skimmer-like system spotting network).
>>Utilization of an RBN (or similar publicly available aggregated
>>skimmer-like
>>system) is permitted for all Multi-Operator
>>classes as well as for the Single Operator-Assisted categories ONLY. If
>>you
>>are a single op entry and access
>>a Reverse Beacon Network (or similar publicly available aggregated
>>skimmer-like system), you MUST submit your log as ASSISTED.
>>
>>I'm confident that is what the announcement was intending to convey and
>>I
>>hope that helps.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Bob W5OV
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>>[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:16 AM
>>To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>Cc: questions at cqww.com
>>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
>>
>>After I first sent this question k3est replied that he was traveling
>>and
>>forwarded the request to "others"...  how about it "others"?  can we
>>proceed
>>with using skimmers the way we have in other contests or are you going
>>to
>>stick by this new weird distinction between the RBN and other sources
>>of
>>skimmer spots?
>>
>>
>>David Robbins K1TTT
>>e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>>web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>>AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt at verizon.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 13:20
>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Cc: questions at cqww.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
>>>
>>>
>>> *C. *Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are *not
>>permitted
>>> for
>>> any category,* except for the *Reverse Beacon Network (RBN).*
>>*Utilization
>>> of the RBN is permitted for all Multi-Operator classes as well as for
>>the
>>> Single Operator-Assisted categories ONLY.* If you are a single op
>>entry
>>> and
>>> access the Reverse Beacon Network, *you MUST submit your log as
>>> ASSISTED.***
>>>
>>>
>>> What makes the RBN unique that allows it but not direct access to
>>other
>>> skimmer servers?  Should I block all access to my skimmer server, or
>>> monitor who is connected to report them to the committee???  I think
>>there
>>> is at least one other skimmer aggregator at ve7cc, is that one not
>>allowed
>>> but RBN is?
>>
>>
>>
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