[CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update

[K1TTT]

Well, I'll be darned... I didn't know that either.  It would be nice that
when members of the committee are expressing official opinions of the rules
that they would sign with some indicator of such.  The only one who has done
stated something official from the committee is k3est in his original
posting that started all this.


David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w5ov at w5ov.com [mailto:w5ov at w5ov.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 20:28
> To: Mark Bailey
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I am a member of the CQWW Committee.
> 
> Bob W5OV
> 
> 
> > That's inventive but I don't think it's what the words say.  :-)
> >
> > If that's really what Bob meant, he or someone official needs to say so.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bob Naumann" <W5OV at W5OV.COM> wrote:
> >
> >>The focus of this discussion has been directed at the least important
> >>part
> >>of the announcement.
> >>
> >>The most important part is:
> >>
> >>*Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are *not permitted
> >>for any
> >>category,*
> >>
> >>Remote skimmers in this context being "private" or deployed by one
> >>station
> >>in any category for its own use which would violate the 500m circle
> >>rule.
> >>Again, the point is that remote stuff is not permitted!!!
> >>
> >>I think it is fair to conclude that the listing of RBN is intended to
> >>be as
> >>a generic example - it is not exclusionary of other similar technology
> >>"public" spotting network systems.
> >>
> >>I also think that the initial wording was chosen and intended to be
> >>generic
> >>without knowledge that by listing RBN was using a "brand name" and
> >>conveyed
> >>the exclusionary permission of only one specific spotting network.
> >>
> >>Let's try re-wording it this way:
> >>
> >>C. Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are not permitted
> >>for
> >>any category,
> >>except for a Reverse Beacon Network (RBN or similar publicly available
> >>aggregated skimmer-like system spotting network).
> >>Utilization of an RBN (or similar publicly available aggregated
> >>skimmer-like
> >>system) is permitted for all Multi-Operator
> >>classes as well as for the Single Operator-Assisted categories ONLY. If
> >>you
> >>are a single op entry and access
> >>a Reverse Beacon Network (or similar publicly available aggregated
> >>skimmer-like system), you MUST submit your log as ASSISTED.
> >>
> >>I'm confident that is what the announcement was intending to convey and
> >>I
> >>hope that helps.
> >>
> >>73,
> >>
> >>Bob W5OV
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> >>[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
> >>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:16 AM
> >>To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>Cc: questions at cqww.com
> >>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
> >>
> >>After I first sent this question k3est replied that he was traveling
> >>and
> >>forwarded the request to "others"...  how about it "others"?  can we
> >>proceed
> >>with using skimmers the way we have in other contests or are you going
> >>to
> >>stick by this new weird distinction between the RBN and other sources
> >>of
> >>skimmer spots?
> >>
> >>
> >>David Robbins K1TTT
> >>e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> >>web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> >>AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt at verizon.net]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 13:20
> >>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>> Cc: questions at cqww.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *C. *Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are *not
> >>permitted
> >>> for
> >>> any category,* except for the *Reverse Beacon Network (RBN).*
> >>*Utilization
> >>> of the RBN is permitted for all Multi-Operator classes as well as for
> >>the
> >>> Single Operator-Assisted categories ONLY.* If you are a single op
> >>entry
> >>> and
> >>> access the Reverse Beacon Network, *you MUST submit your log as
> >>> ASSISTED.***
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What makes the RBN unique that allows it but not direct access to
> >>other
> >>> skimmer servers?  Should I block all access to my skimmer server, or
> >>> monitor who is connected to report them to the committee???  I think
> >>there
> >>> is at least one other skimmer aggregator at ve7cc, is that one not
> >>allowed
> >>> but RBN is?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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