[CQ-Contest] Blind Mode for N1MM Bandmap

[Pete Smith]

I get the feeling that Paul's real objective here is to preclude remote 
operation.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 10/27/2010 7:17 AM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
> On 26/10/2010 21:39, Jack Haverty wrote:
>
>    
>> it's very very difficult to draw a line
>> around tools, or how contesters use tools, and describe that line
>> precisely.
>>      
> Yes, it's difficult - but it's not impossible, and we're
> getting closer.
>
>    
>> Is a tool which converts the RF spectrum into a visual display
>>      
> for the op's eyes a communications technology?
>
> It doesn't matter - with my proposals anything is OK (any
> technology whatsoever) within the own property/ 500 metre
> limit so long as the only thing crossing the boundary of
> the property is amateur band RF (corresponding to the
> band(s) and mode(s) of entry).
>
> Having said that, there is one exception - decoders.
> Why, because this includes Skimmer (there are other
> reasons to exclude decoders).
>
>   >  How about a tool which converts
>    
>> the RF spectrum into audio to the ears?  One is a bandscope, the other
>> is a receiver.  I can see how they'd both be considered to be
>> communications technologies.  But are they amateur or non-amateur?
>>      
> All OK within the property boundary.  Of course, this
> property boundary concept immediately puts remote
> operation into the assisted, if not extreme, class,
> because there is more than amateur-band RF crossing
> the boundary.
>
>    
>> Is a contester who somehow borrows a broadcast station's antenna array,
>> figures out how to load it from his rig, and has fun on 160 in a contest
>> using "non-amateur" technology?
>>      
> All OK within the property boundary.
>
>    
>> What makes a technology "non-amateur"?  I suspect there's no easy
>> answer.
>>      
> It doesn't matter when it is all contained within the
> property boundary (apart from decoders in CW contests),
> and nothing but amateur band RF crosses the boundary.
>
>    
>> Re the CW rule:  Communications takes two people - one to talk, one to
>> listen.  If you need to decode CW "by ear" to demonstrate that you can
>> understand CW, shouldn't you need to send CW by hand
>>      
> This issue has been dealt with already.
> http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/cq-contest/2010-October/091930.html
>
>    
>> [By the way, I don't use a decoder - don't trust them.
>>      
> Whether anyone likes them, or how well they perform, has no
> relevance to the issue.
>
>    
>> My point is simply that it's very hard to draw these lines so that
>> there's agreement and no confusion.
>>      
> I think we've made progress.
>
>    
>> Perhaps the "categories" of contests is the right place to deal with
>> tools.  Instead of just power levels (QRP/LP/HP), categories could be
>> defined based on the station's toolbox.
>>      
> Sorry, can't go along with that - ultimately, everyone
> would end up in separate categories.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
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