[CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition 275 km radius in CQ Contest (petition for change).

Tom Haavisto kamham69 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 18:43:36 PDT 2011

Hi Joe

In your part of the world, this is probably true.  However, where I
live, there is myself and another active contester.  The rest of the
contest club we belong to is about 1,000 miles away, yet we all live
in the province of Ontario.  For ARRL contests where they use ARRL
sections, our scores are included as part of the club total.  In
contests where the circle is used, we don't get added in.  The same
could be said for all Canadian provinces, and a number of U.S. states
as well.

This is just an example - many parts of the world also fall into
similar type issues of widely dispersed individuals.  They all share a
common interest, and are part of one club, and meet whenever they can.
 At the same time, we also need some type of limits so we don't end up
with a small number of "super clubs", which defeats the idea that the
circle was meant to fix.

Tom - VE3CX

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> I'm probably going to be in the minority on this as  I have been on most
> other topics like this.
> But I think in exactly the opposite direction. I feel the circle is ten
> times TOO BIG right now!  I do not feel that two people over 500 miles
> apart are in the same club.
> A club is a group of people that often meet Like at a monthly meeting.
> An organization yes can have members 1000's of miles apart.  But a club
> is a "Local" thing.  A Club is something you would be willing to drive
> to a meeting once a month to actually meet the other members of the club.
> I don't know many clubs that have members driving 200+ miles to go to a
> monthly meeting.
> I'd like the circle to be actually reduced to like a 25 mile radius.
> Thats a "Club" sized circle.
> If ya want more members in your club get more in the club. simple.
> But I'll put my flame suit on now.
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 4/6/2011 4:16 PM, Martin Monsalvo, LU5DX wrote:
>> Hi guys.
>> We started a petition to ask the organizers of CQ Contest to review the 275
>> Km radius rule (Club/Group) competition.
>> We have been allowed by the organizers to submit our contest scores to our
>> clubs/groups for eleven years now, but we really feel it is time for a
>> change.
>> This rule was originally written back in 1948 when these competitions
>> started and certainly the wording took into account the situation of the US
>> based Clubs.
>> There are countries outside USA and Europe where the territory is really
>> vast and the ham population is very little. Our members feel encouraged to
>> enter contests even if it is ocassionally if they are allowed to submit
>> their scores to our Club/Groups, and we really believe that being these
>> competitions world wide events, the situation of other regions needs to be
>> considered.
>> There are several options e.g.:
>> Remove the geographic limitation completely, thus, allowing members of each
>> Club to submit their scores to their club, no matter if they have moved
>> temporarily or permanently.
>> Keep this geographic limitation as it is for the US and Western Europe
>> countries and remove it for the rest of the world, and so on.
>> If you feel like signing the petition you can do so at:
>> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/275km/
>> Thanks in advance for getting involved.
>> Regards!
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