[CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition 275 km radius in CQ Contest(petition for change).

Joe nss at mwt.net
Fri Apr 8 07:19:17 PDT 2011

I'm not a whole lot better than you I also am in a rural area.  not as 
bad as you,  but yest still rural.

And our club W9ET,  has a whopping maybe 6 members and maybe 3 are 
actuve in contests.  sdo i feel ur pain.


The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme

On 4/7/2011 8:31 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:
> Joe,
> Now you are going to exclude many, many folks in the rural areas from 
> being able to participate in a club.  Your views are accepted as your 
> opinion, but they certainly do not fit any better than Martin's 
> suggestion.  In fact, IMHO, Martin's suggestion has more merit that 
> does yours.  The correct answer is however, one size does not fit all.
> My county in rural southwest NM is larger than a few states on the US 
> east coast.  It is 100 miles from top to bottom.  There are only two 
> incorporated towns in the county; the county seat, and the one I live 
> in which has a population of less than 200.  There are less than 5,000 
> total inhabitants in the county.  Our community residents must drive 
> 50 miles to shop at WalMart; in another state.
> Other than licenses which are issued to be used at mountain top 
> repeaters, there are 21 licensed individual operators in the county.  
> Of those 21, perhaps 5 are reasonably "active".
> There is no way to have "Local Club" meetings and competition as you 
> suggest.
> I belong to three clubs; one headquartered 50 miles distant in the 
> adjacent state and has bi-monthlymeetins, one centered 200 miles 
> distant in the adjacent state and meets once a year, and another which 
> covers portions of TX, NM and AZ which meets twice a year in a formal 
> setting.
> In my 50 years licensed, I probably have driven 25,000+ miles to 
> attend club meetings; many more to participate in club activities and 
> projects.
> With regards to contesting, I am outside the radius of my club for CQ 
> contests.  Many others are in the same situation.
> Think about it.
> Milt, N5IA
> -----Original Message----- From: Joe
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:37 AM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition 275 km radius in CQ 
> Contest(petition for change).
> I'm probably going to be in the minority on this as  I have been on most
> other topics like this.
> But I think in exactly the opposite direction. I feel the circle is ten
> times TOO BIG right now!  I do not feel that two people over 500 miles
> apart are in the same club.
> A club is a group of people that often meet Like at a monthly meeting.
> An organization yes can have members 1000's of miles apart.  But a club
> is a "Local" thing.  A Club is something you would be willing to drive
> to a meeting once a month to actually meet the other members of the club.
> I don't know many clubs that have members driving 200+ miles to go to a
> monthly meeting.
> I'd like the circle to be actually reduced to like a 25 mile radius.
> Thats a "Club" sized circle.
> If ya want more members in your club get more in the club. simple.
> But I'll put my flame suit on now.
> Joe WB9SBD
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
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> On 4/6/2011 4:16 PM, Martin Monsalvo, LU5DX wrote:
>> Hi guys.
>> We started a petition to ask the organizers of CQ Contest to review 
>> the 275
>> Km radius rule (Club/Group) competition.
>> We have been allowed by the organizers to submit our contest scores 
>> to our
>> clubs/groups for eleven years now, but we really feel it is time for a
>> change.
>> This rule was originally written back in 1948 when these competitions
>> started and certainly the wording took into account the situation of 
>> the US
>> based Clubs.
>> There are countries outside USA and Europe where the territory is really
>> vast and the ham population is very little. Our members feel 
>> encouraged to
>> enter contests even if it is ocassionally if they are allowed to submit
>> their scores to our Club/Groups, and we really believe that being these
>> competitions world wide events, the situation of other regions needs 
>> to be
>> considered.
>> There are several options e.g.:
>> Remove the geographic limitation completely, thus, allowing members 
>> of each
>> Club to submit their scores to their club, no matter if they have moved
>> temporarily or permanently.
>> Keep this geographic limitation as it is for the US and Western Europe
>> countries and remove it for the rest of the world, and so on.
>> If you feel like signing the petition you can do so at:
>> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/275km/
>> Thanks in advance for getting involved.
>> Regards!
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