[CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V

[David Kopacz]

For one, the real guy can get his access back simply by providing any node operator with a photocopy of his license. The node operator could then go back and flag the IP address and email address of the poser. If he does it enough times, he will eventually get narrowed down to at least a region.

There are ways to catch the person from there. At the very least, that IP range, email domain can be flagged for manual processing. Once done, new registrations from that area will have to have someone verify the license photocopy.

I am sure there are better ideas, hence the discussion.

What about tying it license databases, like the ULS?

The system may not be perfect, but as it stands, the poser can go unchecked forever. With a registration system, he may get tired of finding new IP addresses and new email addresses, or eventually make a mistake that gets him caught.

Is it not worth trying?

Dave ~ KY1V


-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:55 AM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V

I agree,  While it indeed would be nice,  but how to do it?
Simply having people sign up like a yahoo group, or a message board 
isn't good enough, because what would stop me  WB9SBD  from going there 
and sign up as K9MF and make a password  etc.  (Unless he has already 
signed up.)  But how do you secure it so someone can not sign up as 
someone else.

Then even the real guy owner of the call is now locked out.  Almost like 
a web page url squatter.

It would be nice but how?

Joe WB9SBD

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On 4/25/2011 4:17 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
> I can only imagine a registration/user/password implementation will not
> be forthcoming any time soon.
>
> It's not that it can't be done, the crux of it is really "who's going to
> administer it?"
>
> Take LoTW, for example... And all the bellyaching that goes along with
> that security system.
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
>
> On 4/25/2011 6:52 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
>> I agree completely.  The whole issue of bad spots (for whatever reasons...
>> cheerleading, bragging, begging, or the gamut of malicious intent) degrades
>> what should be a prime resource for DX'ers and contesters.
>>
>> Is there an alternative?  Is there some software that a DX/contest club
>> could fire up to create their own local secure cluster, with provisions to
>> only link to other, also-secure clusters?
>>
>> I haven't heard of any.  Perhaps all we are waiting for is an alternative
>> choice?  I know nothing of how hard a job that would be, but somebody
>> somewhere must be itching for a project that will truly make a difference to
>> our community.
>>
>> 73 de Chuck, WS1L
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Luc PY8AZT<py8azt at dxbrasil.net>   wrote:
>>
>>> Clap, clap, clarp.
>>>
>>> It´s time to make our network secure, DXCluster included!
>>> Or more and more abuses will come alive making the DXCluster less and
>>> less useful.
>>>
>>> 73, Luc
>>> __
>>> PW7T Team member
>>> WRTC.2010 Brazilian Team Leader
>>> PY8AZT (also PT7AG, PX8C, ZZ8Z, ZY7C)
>>> LABRE, ARRL, CWJF&   Fortaleza DX Group Member
>>>
>>> 2011/4/24 David Kopacz<david.kopacz at aspwebhosting.com>:
>>>> I have received a number of recent emails regarding comments made via
>>>> the DX Cluster using my call sign KY1V.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to "clear the air" regarding these posts on the cluster.
>>>>
>>>> =================================================
>>>> THESE COMMENTS ARE NOT MINE. I DID NOT MAKE THEM.
>>>> =================================================
>>>>
>>>> I DO NOT post comments on the DX Cluster about people. In fact, I have
>>>> rarely posted to the DX Cluster. I don't even post during contests. I
>>>> almost exclusively use the cluster to receive spots while contesting.
>>>>
>>> snip
>>>> Until such time as the Amateur Radio community decides that they will no
>>>> longer tolerate such abuse and refuse to participate in using an
>>>> unsecured system that allows such blatant abuses to continue, the
>>>> problem will likely continue endlessly.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't have to be this way. Isn't it time for a change?
>>>>
>>>> I hope to get back into radio soon, until then, happy DX'ing and
>>>> contesting.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> David ~ KY1V
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