[CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

Jim,

My understanding from current and former Hq people I've talked with is that
this practice (giving DXCC credit based on logs submitted for the ARRL DX
contests) was discontinued sometime in the early 1960's.  As you surmise,
the problem was administrative; as the contests got more popular and more
activity, the number of submitted logs rose to the point to make it too time
consuming (and thus expensive) to continue, to comb through pages upon pages
of paper logs to find matches.

This was (I have been told) one of the reasons behind the creation of
Logbook of the World, to provide a means to do so, but not just for the ARRL
DX contests.

I think in general it's a good idea.  Of course, if you're already signed up
for LotW, it's no big deal to make two submissions... one to the contest
robot, one to LotW.  

It's too bad that LotW doesn't appear to have an advocate at Hq. like Wayne
N7NG was.  He had a real passion for the program, and to be honest, I
haven't seen that level of enthusiasm for it since he retired.  T

I do find your idea of adding a Cabrillo "Yes/No" entry for LotW entries a
good one.  Too bad that we can't seem to get anyone to even consider that
same idea for Open Log submissions.

73, ron w3wn

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Subject: [CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise

Great idea, below, and it's come up before. The practice applied only to
DXCC and I'm certain that it had to be abandoned because it was an
administrative, time-consuming, nightmare at arrl hq. 

The Great Leap Forward would be to find a way to fully integrate, 100 per
cent, contest logs submitted and LotW -- surely this would encourage more
participation in both programs. If they could find a way around the LotW
"certification" issue they could simply roll contest logs right over into
LotW. Your U.S. county would have to be added to the Cabrillo contest log
header.

Anybody who objected to his contest log automatically going into LotW could
simply opt out of it. Make it a log header 

LOTW:   YES
or
LOTW:   NO

How to make this happen? Don't bother with the volunteer advisory
committees. Go directly to your director and convince him or her that this
could be a money-maker for the league. Mention that DXCC and contests are
the league's most popular programs and generate a lot of good will for them
(a few pig farmers and boaters excepted, of course).

ARRL doesn't make a dime on contests; it does (I think) make a few pennies
on DXCC and WAS submissions via LotW. At least I hope they do -- they have
to make a few somewhere, after all.

There might be a downside to this proposal somewhere and I am absolutely
certain that I will be apprised of it.

Jim Cain
At The K1TN Superstation
Whiteout, Wisconsin

>"If you really want more logs, revive the practice ARRL had back in the
70s, and allow credit toward >any awards you have, for QSOs that are in both
logs.  CQ could do it for WAZ and show the way.  The >BS about security and
cheating is just that. -- 73, Pete N4ZR"
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