[CQ-Contest] DC and NAQP

[Michael Adams]

It's worth remembering that other US territories are separate DXCC entities, explaining why they are separate multipliers in, for example, the NAQP. 

Personally, I agree that DC ought to be a separate multiplier when states (but not sections) are multipliers. 

Of course, I also can't quite get the hang of independent cities not being equivalent to counties under MARAC rules. But that comes from having been a county-counter (physically visiting counties; independent cities are considered as county-equivalents) before having discovered county-hunting. 

But hey, it's the organizers' contests/awards, so they get to make the rules. 

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Michael D. Adams (AB1OD) | Poquonock, Connecticut | mda at ab1od.org  

On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net> wrote:

> Oh, we could have a lot of fun with the semantics.  After all, technically,
> isn't Puerto Rico a Commonwealth as well?
> 
> However... VA, MA, KY & PA are political entities that have been admitted to
> the Union.  So from that standpoint, they are States for the purposes of
> determining what is and is not a multiplier.  
> 
> And as a practical matter, there is no difference between the State of PA &
> the Commonwealth of PA.  The State/Commonwealth government uses the two
> terms interchangeably.
> 
> Now, I don't have a problem with DC being it's own mult.  I'd simply ask
> that IF it is determined by the appropriate folks, with the appropriate
> input from the reflector & other sources, the rule modifications make it
> clear as to WHY DC is going to be a mult, but other populated US territories
> that are not States are not.
> 
> Otherwise, one could make a case for PR & VI, as populated US territories
> within the generally accepted bounds of North America, should also be mults.
> Is that what you want?  Or would that be an unanticipated consequence?
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Embry
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:59 PM
> To: George Fremin III
> Cc: Mike Tessmer; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DC and NAQP
> 
> All,
> 
> If this is indeed the case, then perhaps Virginia, Massachusetts, Kentucky,
> and Pennsylvania, while politically different are technically Commonwealths
> and not States.
> 
> While I will admit that DC is not a state, but Constitutionally a 'Federal
> City' is is a separate political entity.  Personally, I can see no reason
> why DC should not be its own mult.  But, one wants to play semantics with
> words and definitions, then remove the Commonwealths as multipliers.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jeff
> K3OQ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, August 10, 2012, George Fremin III wrote:
> 
>> The mults in NAQP are US states, Canadian provinces and north American
>> countries.
>> 
>> DC is not a state.
>> 
>> The rules do mention DC and say that it counts as MD for this contest.
>> 
>> --
>> George Fremin III
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Mike Tessmer
> <mtessmer at mindspring.com<javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> With this talk about new sections/multipliers, I think what NN3W may
>> have hinted at is:
>>> 
>>> Why is DC not a multiplier in the NAQP?
>>> 
>>> I asked this same question a few years ago and got exactly one answer
>> that implied that adding DC might render all NAQP records meaningless, or
>> something to that effect.  That's a very weak argument in that having
>> someone show up from DC would have no more effect on any record than
> having
>> someone show up from Greenland or any Caribbean or Central American
>> country.  (Yet we'd all be saying "Great to see some DX activity!"}
>>> 
>>> So I'll toss it out there again:
>>> 
>>> - Why not add DC as a mult in NAQP?
>>> - What would be a valid reason not to?
>>> 
>>> Perhaps one of the NAQP managers might chime in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73, Mike K9NW
>>> 
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