[CQ-Contest] LOTW and Contest Logs

Edward Sawyer SawyerEd at earthlink.net
Wed Dec 12 16:20:30 EST 2012

It seems to me that if LOTW focused on being a clearinghouse initially and a
validator only when DXCC was applied for...it would be quite easy.

Have CQ or ARRL submit only the "final logs" to LOTW. If a log is DQ'd it
won't come, if a QSO is bad it won't come, only validated Qs come. If a
current LOTW user has already uploaded their logs, overwrite those Qs with
the final ones.

Then be sure that the "licensed operation" that is associated with that log
has been accepted as a valid DXCC operation just like is done with paper

I don't see how hard that would be.

The irony of the current system of LOTW is that if 2 people "fake" that a
QSO happened in LOTW, it is recorded as happening.  In a validated contest
log, it has a much higher chance of being "outed" or "verified from a
recording and removed".  Which process is more "high integrity"?

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Parry [mailto:bparry at rgv.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:07 PM
To: sawyered at earthlink.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LOTW and Contest Logs

To upload logs to LOTW the QSOs need to be verified. Foreign stations need
to submit verification of their license before they can get their log
accepted. I have no problem with the concept but it would be more
complicated that just uploading all the logs. It would make my job more
complicated since I upload my contest logs into my logging program and then
use the logging program to generate the appropriate files for upload. I do
this each month so I would have to figure out which QSOs had been uploaded
and which had not in my log.

I would be fine with the concept but like to be able to opt out of that
process. Years ago we used to be able to claim credit for contest QSOs based
on the logs that were submitted for the ARRL contests.

Bill W5VX

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Edward Sawyer
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:24 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] LOTW and Contest Logs

I am sure this has been asked before, but why is it that contest logs are
not just automatically uploaded onto LOTW.  The revenue is on the
confirmation side so it would seem to be in the economic interest of the
league to allow all contest submitted logs to populate LOTW.


Ed  N1UR

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