[CQ-Contest] Assisted or not assisted question (yet again)

[Bob Naumann]

With that "random" definition, as I said:

"In that case, none of these are assistance whether K0AA acts on them or
not".

Bob W5OV

-----Original Message-----
From: K0HB [mailto:kzerohb at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:44 AM
To: Bob Naumann
Cc: Dale Putnam; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or not assisted question (yet again)

I should have set the stage better.  For this discussion, consider each
example as a random crossing of paths during a contest.

73, Hans

Sent from my iPad

On May 31, 2012, at 4:48 AM, "Bob Naumann" <W5OV at W5OV.COM> wrote:

> Not enough information is provided in the original post to correctly
answer
> any of these scenarios as to whether or not they constitute assistance.
> 
> Are these random pieces of information from K0BB - transmitted to K0AA
over
> the air - on the bands and mode K0AA is using to operate the contest?
> 
> In that case, none of these are assistance whether K0AA acts on them or
not.
> 
> If it's on 2m FM or packet radio or via an internet spotting network while
> K0AA is operating the ARRL CW DX contest (for example), it would be
> assistance.
> 
> If K0AA has asked (pre-arranged with) K0BB to scan the bands and to look
for
> stuff like this, then to find K0AA on the air and feed this information to
> K0AA to help K0AA in his operation of the contest, this would constitute
an
> illegal multi-op - not assistance.
> 
> It would be an illegal multi-op because K0AA's operation is now at two
> locations - K0AA and K0BB. Why would this not be assistance? Because K0BB
is
> intentionally performing actions that benefit K0AA's score only - pretty
> much as if he were at K0AA's station - but he's not.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bob W5OV
> 
> P.S. This is my personal opinion and not necessarily representative of any
> contest committee I am a member of.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Radio K0HB
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:28 PM
> To: Dale Putnam
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or not assisted question (yet again)
> 
> Which of the following outside information (obtained from another person)
is
> 
> "assistance" (presuming that you act on it)?
> 
> 1) K0AA DE K0BB CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR SUNDOWN.  LAST YEAR 40 WAS GREAT TO
THE 
> EAST
> 
> 2) K0AA DE K0BB I HEARD THE PACIFIC BARRELING IN HERE ON 20 METERS ABOUT
10 
> MINUTES AGO
> 
> 3) K0AA DE UA4BB YOU'RE HONEST 599 HERE IN MOSCOW
> 
> 4) K0AA DE K0BB THERE'S A NORTH DAKOTA STATION ON 20
> 
> 5) K0AA DE K0BB I JUST WORKED VY1JA ON 14.027
> 
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Dale Putnam
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:15 PM
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or not assisted question (yet again)
> 
> 
> And that... specifically is what makes it "assisted"   Outside
information, 
> not readily available without outside assistance.
> 
> --...   ...--
> Dale - WC7S in Wy
>  In essence I would not get no outside help in locating,
>> identifying and working stations in the contest. I just get accurate and 
>> up
>> to date information about propagation which is basically more accurate 
>> then
>> what I might have got with the help of propagation prediction software.
> 
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