[CQ-Contest] Big Gun hogging two frequencies (K3KU complaint)

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

Define in use.

Mike W0MU

On 1/14/2013 6:07 PM, Martin Durham wrote:
> So...if you are not transmitting on a frequency then it's NOT in
> use...right? No time for 'listening' right? How do you KNOW that SO2R
> operator is off transmitting on a second radio rather than taking a 'listen'
> on his frequency in use?
>
>
> W1MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> W0MU Mike Fatchett
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:05 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Big Gun hogging two frequencies (K3KU complaint)
>
> Either the Frequency is being used or it isn't.  If you are off making a 2nd
> radio contact aren't you effectively giving up the other freq?  If you say
> no than you are operating on two freqs at the same time....Right?????  DQ
> time right??
>
> This is a slippery slope.
>
> There is no hold period where you get to use the bathroom or scan for mults.
> If you are not actively using the freq and someone comes along and does you
> need to move.  End of story.  You have no dibs, rights or otherwise.
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> On 1/14/2013 1:47 PM, Alan Dewey wrote:
>>
>> I
>> lways ask twice if a frequency is open, and it does not take more than
>> en seconds to do that.
>>
>>
>> I think this is the key.  I am suprised the number of guys who hear a
> clear frequency and just jump in and call CQ without asking if the frequency
> is QRL?  It could be the guy is on the second radio but it could also be
> that he is trying to pull out the exchange from a QRP station that you do
> not hear.
>> On the other hand, if a guy is tied up on the second radio and a guy QRLs
> his CQ freq., he better respond quickly or he just lost his CQ frequency as
> he should.
>> 73,
>>
>> Al, K0AD
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 1:58 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Big Gun hogging two frequencies (K3KU
>> complaint)
>>
>>
>>
>>    have to disagree there.  Ten seconds in a major contest is plenty
>> long nough to check for an available frequency.  I can pretty much
>> guarantee hat if I wait longer than that somebody will grab it before
>> I do.  I lways ask twice if a frequency is open, and it does not take
>> more than en seconds to do that.  Try it yourself while watching the
> clock.
>> However, if I start calling CQ and somebody jumps back in that clearly
>> ad the frequency before me, I move.
>> 73,
>> ave   AB7E
>>
>> On 1/14/2013 11:51 AM, steve.root at culligan4water.com wrote:
>>
>> n the other hand, 10 seconds is no where near long enough to determine
>> if a requency is in use. I might not be on the second radio, I might
>> be copying a uy that you can't hear that's sending an exchange to me
>> at 15 WPM. His exchange ould easily take more than 10 seconds.
>> 73 Steve K0SR
>>
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