[CQ-Contest] Big Gun hogging two frequencies (K3KU complaint)

[Martin Durham]

That's what you just did with your logic Mike. :)


Marty Durham
W1MD
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On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:45 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> Define in use.
> 
> Mike W0MU
> 
> On 1/14/2013 6:07 PM, Martin Durham wrote:
>> So...if you are not transmitting on a frequency then it's NOT in
>> use...right? No time for 'listening' right? How do you KNOW that SO2R
>> operator is off transmitting on a second radio rather than taking a 'listen'
>> on his frequency in use?
>> 
>> 
>> W1MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> W0MU Mike Fatchett
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:05 PM
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Big Gun hogging two frequencies (K3KU complaint)
>> 
>> Either the Frequency is being used or it isn't.  If you are off making a 2nd
>> radio contact aren't you effectively giving up the other freq?  If you say
>> no than you are operating on two freqs at the same time....Right?????  DQ
>> time right??
>> 
>> This is a slippery slope.
>> 
>> There is no hold period where you get to use the bathroom or scan for mults.
>> If you are not actively using the freq and someone comes along and does you
>> need to move.  End of story.  You have no dibs, rights or otherwise.
>> 
>> Mike W0MU
>> 
>> On 1/14/2013 1:47 PM, Alan Dewey wrote:
>>> 
>>> I
>>> lways ask twice if a frequency is open, and it does not take more than
>>> en seconds to do that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think this is the key.  I am suprised the number of guys who hear a
>> clear frequency and just jump in and call CQ without asking if the frequency
>> is QRL?  It could be the guy is on the second radio but it could also be
>> that he is trying to pull out the exchange from a QRP station that you do
>> not hear.
>>> On the other hand, if a guy is tied up on the second radio and a guy QRLs
>> his CQ freq., he better respond quickly or he just lost his CQ frequency as
>> he should.
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Al, K0AD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 1:58 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Big Gun hogging two frequencies (K3KU
>>> complaint)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  have to disagree there.  Ten seconds in a major contest is plenty
>>> long nough to check for an available frequency.  I can pretty much
>>> guarantee hat if I wait longer than that somebody will grab it before
>>> I do.  I lways ask twice if a frequency is open, and it does not take
>>> more than en seconds to do that.  Try it yourself while watching the
>> clock.
>>> However, if I start calling CQ and somebody jumps back in that clearly
>>> ad the frequency before me, I move.
>>> 73,
>>> ave   AB7E
>>> 
>>> On 1/14/2013 11:51 AM, steve.root at culligan4water.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> n the other hand, 10 seconds is no where near long enough to determine
>>> if a requency is in use. I might not be on the second radio, I might
>>> be copying a uy that you can't hear that's sending an exchange to me
>>> at 15 WPM. His exchange ould easily take more than 10 seconds.
>>> 73 Steve K0SR
>>> 
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