[CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

Barry w2up at comcast.net
Fri Jan 25 18:41:40 EST 2013


So you and the others who aren't happy should vote him out next election.
Barry W2UP

On 1/25/2013 14:51, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>
> My ARRL Director is totally unresponsive as far as I can tell - and 
> I'm far from the only Roanoke ARRL member who says so.
>
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
> http://reversebeacon.net,
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> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
> On 1/25/2013 4:13 PM, Rick Lindquist, WW1ME wrote:
>>
>> No, but you now have asked Sean regarding board action on the 
>> proposed rules change, and he's a person who should know.
>>
>> I was simply explaining how League governance typically works, since 
>> you had asked "Why it requires a decision at that level." In my 
>> experience the board has voted by e-mail or teleconference on a few 
>> occasions, but this is the exception, and that wasn't the question 
>> you raised anyway. Your ARRL director or perhaps Pres Craigie or EVP 
>> Dave Sumner can address this governance issue far better than I could.
>>
>> But, I don't have a dog in this hunt.
>>
>> 73, Rick, WW1ME
>>
>> *From:*Pete Smith N4ZR [mailto:n4zr at contesting.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 3:54 PM
>> *To:* Rick Lindquist, WW1ME
>> *Cc:* CQ Contest; Kutzko, Sean, KX9X
>> *Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
>>
>> Rick, I'm well aware of that, which is why I contacted Directors who 
>> contest, to try to get the issue before the Board. My question really 
>> goes to why the question has to wait for a semi-annual Board meeting, 
>> when a Board committee could vote on such minor matters by e-mail "as 
>> needed."  You seem to be well patched in - do you know what they 
>> decided, if anything?
>>
>> On second thought, I'm copying Sean - he should know.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>> http://reversebeacon.net,
>> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
>> For spots, please go to your favorite
>> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>>
>> On 1/25/2013 12:00 PM, Rick Lindquist, WW1ME wrote:
>>
>>     Pete, the CAC is what it says - "advisory." It's also comprised of
>>
>>     volunteers. The CAC reports its findings and recommendations to 
>> the Board of
>>
>>     Directors, and the board decides (or not). This puts the 
>> decision-making in
>>
>>     the hands of individuals who have been elected by the ARRL 
>> membership.
>>
>>
>>     73, Rick, WW1ME
>>
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>
>>     From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On 
>> Behalf Of
>>
>>     Pete Smith N4ZR
>>
>>     Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:32 AM
>>
>>     To:cq-contest at contesting.com <mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>
>>     Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
>>
>>
>>     What Rich says is correct.  I would just add that the ARRL 10 and 
>> 160
>>
>>     contests are severely anachronistic in this respect.  Nobody is 
>> suggesting
>>
>>     that assistance be allowed for "pure" single-ops, but surely 
>> there should be
>>
>>     a SOA category in these contests. That there is not dates back to 
>> the
>>
>>     earliest days of DX clusters.  To my knowledge, nobody has 
>> advanced a reason
>>
>>     for keeping the status quo.
>>
>>
>>     I have been in correspondence with the CAC and various directors 
>> about this,
>>
>>     and one told me that action might be taken in the January ARRL Board
>>
>>     meeting, which has just taken place.  Why it requires a decision 
>> at that
>>
>>     level is beyond me, but that's what we have.  Now waiting for 
>> detailed
>>
>>     minutes to learn what, if anything, was done.
>>
>>
>>     73, Pete N4ZR
>>
>>     Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>>
>>     http://reversebeacon.net,
>>
>>     blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
>>
>>     For spots, please go to your favorite
>>
>>     ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>>
>>
>>     On 1/25/2013 8:51 AM, Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:
>>
>>         Usually if it says nothing, the assumption is that you must 
>> classify
>>
>>     yourself as multi-single as the single operator rules have 
>> language about
>>
>>     the -operator- doing all of the activity.
>>
>>
>>         ARRL 160 and ARRL 10 do not have separate assisted categories -
>>
>>     necessitating that assisted ops enter as multi single entries.
>>
>>
>>         73 Rich NN3W
>>
>>
>>         Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>>
>>
>>         ----- Reply message -----
>>
>>         From:Ktfrog007 at aol.com  <mailto:Ktfrog007 at aol.com>
>>
>>         Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 7:30 am
>>
>>         Subject: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
>>
>>         To:<cq-contest at contesting.com> 
>> <mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>
>>
>>         If a contest's rules say nothing about Assisted operation, 
>> does that
>>
>>         mean it's allowed without restriction?
>>
>>
>>         Note that Single-Op has no uniform definition.  For example, 
>> in the
>>
>>         ARRL RTTY Roundup, Single-Ops cannot be Assisted, while in 
>> the CQ WPX
>>
>>         RTTY everyone can operate Assisted.
>>
>>
>>         73,
>>
>>         Kermit (Ken) AB1J
>>
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