[CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

[Robert Chudek - K0RC]

"Shooting fish in a barrel"... not an accurate corollary... more like 
"Fishing with a fish locator"... just because you know where they are, 
you still have to lure them onto your line.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 1/25/2013 10:09 PM, Jim Jordan wrote:
> 100% agree, Hans. Anyone who has never enjoyed the thrill of finding 
> his own contacts without assistance has never experienced real 
> operating. Fishermen catching their own shouldn't have to compete with 
> those shooting fish in a barrel.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4QPL
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com>
> To: <k5zd at charter.net>
> Cc: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr at contesting.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
>
>
>> Sorry Randy, but "pure" SO should NOT be required to compete with 
>> assisted
>> operators.  There is no logical reason to require it.
>>
>> There is a large community of good contesters who wish to compete with
>> their non-assisted peers, not with those who use outside assistance.
>>
>> Why does this stupid idea keep rising out of the mud?
>>
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB/K7
>>
>> On Friday, January 25, 2013, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
>>
>>> For these contests where there is no assisted category, instead of 
>>> making
>>> yet another category, why not just allow single ops to use assistance?!
>>>
>>> Anyone licensed in the last 15 years has never experienced life 
>>> without the
>>> DX Cluster.  Perhaps it is time to accept this as it is - the new 
>>> normal.
>>>
>>> Randy, K5ZD
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: CQ-Contest > 
>>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com<javascript:;>]
>>> On Behalf Of
>>> > Pete Smith N4ZR
>>> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:32 PM
>>> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com <javascript:;>
>>> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
>>> >
>>> > What Rich says is correct.  I would just add that the ARRL 10 and 160
>>> > contests are severely anachronistic in this respect. Nobody is
>>> > suggesting that assistance be allowed for "pure" single-ops, but 
>>> surely
>>> > there should be a SOA category in these contests. That there is 
>>> not > dates
>>> > back to the earliest days of DX clusters.  To my knowledge, nobody 
>>> has
>>> > advanced a reason for keeping the status quo.
>>> >
>>> > I have been in correspondence with the CAC and various directors 
>>> about
>>> > this, and one told me that action might be taken in the January ARRL
>>> > Board meeting, which has just taken place.  Why it requires a 
>>> decision > at
>>> > that level is beyond me, but that's what we have.  Now waiting for
>>> > detailed minutes to learn what, if anything, was done.
>>> >
>>> > 73, Pete N4ZR
>>> > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>>> > http://reversebeacon.net,
>>> > blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
>>> > For spots, please go to your favorite
>>> > ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>>> >
>>> > On 1/25/2013 8:51 AM, Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:
>>> > > Usually if it says nothing, the assumption is that you must 
>>> classify
>>> > yourself as multi-single as the single operator rules have 
>>> language > about
>>> > the -operator- doing all of the activity.
>>> > >
>>> > > ARRL 160 and ARRL 10 do not have separate assisted categories -
>>> > necessitating that assisted ops enter as multi single entries.
>>> > >
>>> > > 73 Rich NN3W
>>> > >
>>> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>>> > >
>>> > > ----- Reply message -----
>>> > > From: Ktfrog007 at aol.com <javascript:;>
>>> > > Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 7:30 am
>>> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
>>> > > To: <cq-contest at contesting.com <javascript:;>>
>>> > >
>>> > > If a contest's rules say nothing about Assisted operation, does 
>>> that
>>> > > mean it's allowed without restriction?
>>> > >
>>> > > Note that Single-Op has no uniform definition.  For example, in the
>>> > > ARRL RTTY Roundup, Single-Ops cannot be Assisted, while in the 
>>> CQ WPX
>>> > > RTTY everyone can operate Assisted.
>>> > >
>>> > > 73,
>>> > > Kermit (Ken) AB1J
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>>
>> -- 
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
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