[CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

[Stan Stockton]

There isn't anything "hard" about any of this.  There are, however,  
considerations regarding the number of categories in some contests,  
especially ARRL where in some cases awards are made for eighty some  
odd sections and every DXCC country that might have a participant.   
Six of the nine categories you mentioned - all but the multi op  
catogories may also have single band possibilities. Multiply 6 x 6 and  
add three for total of 39 categories.  Mutliply that times 83 and you  
get 3237 potential awards just for USA and Canada alone, and many may  
be issued to the only station that entered in a particular category  
from a particular section who only made a few contacts.

This doesn't have a lot to fo with the discussion but something the  
sponsors have to consider.  Take a single band, two mode contest like  
the 10m contest and add a factor of 3 for CW, Phone, and Mixed mode  
options for the appropriate power and operator categories and then add  
in the Mexican States and see what you get.

There are pros and cons to the idea of having as many possible first  
place awards as there might be participants in a given event.

Stan, K5GO

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On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> It should be easy - MM, M2, MS, SOHP, SOHP(A), SOLP, SOLP(A), QRP,  
> QRP(A)  -
> What the heck is so hard about that?  Anyone?
>
> AGREED 100%
>
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 1/28/2013 8:29 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
>> If contest committees are spending time to check on the use of  
>> assisted in
>> the non-assisted class, then the logical conclusion is that it  
>> would give
>> the cheater an advantage.  Otherwise why bother. So, it is clear  
>> that it has
>> an effect on the outcome.  And it has had an effect on the  
>> outcome.in at
>> least one recent CQWW, the HP(A) category outscored the HP  
>> category.  I am
>> quite sure it wasn't the first time.
>>
>>
>> So why is this topic so suddenly being floated by some very  
>> familiar names
>> in the contest circles?  Fess up folks.
>>
>>
>> Both categories are big and popular in all power categories.  Why  
>> is there a
>> need to change it?
>>
>>
>> I completely agree with an early part of this thread that every  
>> contest
>> should have an assisted category and to not force assisted  
>> operators into
>> the Multi-Single category just for using packet or skimmer.  That  
>> is as
>> unfair as forcing single ops to compete with operators with global
>> assistance.
>>
>>
>> It should be easy - MM, M2, MS, SOHP, SOHP(A), SOLP, SOLP(A), QRP,  
>> QRP(A)  -
>> What the heck is so hard about that?  Anyone?
>>
>>
>> Ed  N1UR
>>
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There isn't anything hard about any of this.  There are considerations  
regarding the number of categories in some contests, perhaps  
especially ARRL where awards are made for eighty some odd sections and  
every DXCC country that might have a participant.  Six of the nine  
categories you mentioned - all but the multi op catogiries also have  
single band possibilities. Multiply 6 x 6 and add three for total of  
39 categories.  Mutliply that times 83 and you get

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On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> It should be easy - MM, M2, MS, SOHP, SOHP(A), SOLP, SOLP(A), QRP,  
> QRP(A)  -
> What the heck is so hard about that?  Anyone?
>
> AGREED 100%
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 1/28/2013 8:29 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
>> If contest committees are spending time to check on the use of  
>> assisted in
>> the non-assisted class, then the logical conclusion is that it  
>> would give
>> the cheater an advantage.  Otherwise why bother. So, it is clear  
>> that it has
>> an effect on the outcome.  And it has had an effect on the  
>> outcome.in at
>> least one recent CQWW, the HP(A) category outscored the HP  
>> category.  I am
>> quite sure it wasn't the first time.
>>
>>
>> So why is this topic so suddenly being floated by some very  
>> familiar names
>> in the contest circles?  Fess up folks.
>>
>>
>> Both categories are big and popular in all power categories.  Why  
>> is there a
>> need to change it?
>>
>>
>> I completely agree with an early part of this thread that every  
>> contest
>> should have an assisted category and to not force assisted  
>> operators into
>> the Multi-Single category just for using packet or skimmer.  That  
>> is as
>> unfair as forcing single ops to compete with operators with global
>> assistance.
>>
>>
>> It should be easy - MM, M2, MS, SOHP, SOHP(A), SOLP, SOLP(A), QRP,  
>> QRP(A)  -
>> What the heck is so hard about that?  Anyone?
>>
>>
>> Ed  N1UR
>>
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>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
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>>
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