[CQ-Contest] Logs - Upload don't email

Sean Cavanaugh seanc at unixgeeks.ca
Wed Jun 12 23:06:56 EDT 2013

I suppose I was a bit lax in terminology.

It technically doesn't violate the SMTP spec to not send a DSN, but from the RFC 5321 (SMTP) and RFC 821 (Old SMTP) standards, both state that if a message is not able to be forwarded or delivered, "the message MUST be returned as undeliverable." (RFC 5321) There is exceptions for things like harmful or invalid return addresses, but I'd presume a log sent from a properly formatted email address is neither of those.

It breaks a lot of things, including user expectations, to just have a message disappear into the ether.


Sean - VA5LF

On 2013-06-12, at 6:21 PM, Katsuhiro Kondou <kondou at voyackey.net> wrote:

> In article <D1B4A9A8-E416-4CF4-97D3-DB349FD24DBE at unixgeeks.ca>,
> 	Sean Cavanaugh <seanc at unixgeeks.ca> wrote,
> 	on "Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:26:38 -0600";
>> Most servers send back a Delivery Status Notification (DSN) saying the mail was undeliverable. I'm rather surprised the ARRL server doesn't, as it is very useful for both informing someone they sent the message to the wrong address, and for diagnosing any mail delivery problems that occur. It also violates the applicable standards (RFC 5321), but it seems a lot of people are willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to fighting spam.
> I don't think it violate, since DSN is RFC3461, which is
> just an SMTP extention.
> -- 
> Katsuhiro "Don" Kondou, JH5GHM
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