[CQ-Contest] [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP

w5ov at w5ov.com w5ov at w5ov.com
Mon Jun 17 13:32:43 EDT 2013


I am curious how these scenarios are being read into rules that say
nothing about correcting typos or using SCP?

"Check Partial" or "Super Check Partial" doesn't ever "log" anything. The
operator chooses a suggested callsign and then *HE* logs that, but it is
not CP or SCP doing the logging.

The rule is strictly on using *outside* means of analyzing and correcting
your log. If *you* figure out that *you* made a typo, that's not what this
rule is talking about - is it?

Even so, the rest of the pertinent section says:

     VIII.9 All logging must be performed in real time.

     VIII.10. Call signs logged must be the same as those exchanged
              over the air by the entrants during the QSO.

Q: How does that affect the above?

A: Let's say that you log and work K1ABZ during the contest. Later, you
somehow realize you should misheard his callsign and it should have been
K1ABC.  In this scenario, you said "K1ABZ" (Alpha Bravo Zulu) on the air
and logged K1ABZ. It is not OK to go back and correct this after the fact.
You made an error - clearly. Fixing it after the fact does not undo the
error - does it?

One thing that is quite different is that with the advent of SDR, the
committee can hear virtually every qso that takes place.



W5OV


> So is going through your log AFTER THE CONTEST, looking for obvious  typos
> like KlABC instead of K1ABC or GOABC instead of G0ABC against the  rules?
>
> K4XS
>
>
> In a message dated 6/17/2013 3:36:01 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,
> trogo at telegraphy.com writes:
>
> If CP or  SCP logs the call incorrectly and I want to change it then I
> can't
> unless  I do it at that instant?  It seems a little ridiculous not to be
> able
> to change an
> incorrect exchange later so long as I'm using MY DATA and  correcting data
> that was received from another source.  To correct  based on data received
> from
> another source after the fact should  obviously not be permitted.   Many
> many
> US Stations are in zones  not coincidental with the default zone used in
> logging
> programs and  don't appear in CP and sometimes CP is wrong - people move.
> This is a  problem unique to stations in the USA and only if you're
> operating
> from a  DX location.
>
>
>
> Tony W4OI/HK4AR
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Schaefer,  NY4I
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:26 AM
> To: konecc at snet.net
> Cc:  Group Group
> Subject: [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP
>
> Some might disagree  on this, but the text in the change is as follows:
>
> Correction of LOGGED  call signs by using any database, recordings, email
> or
> other methods of  confirming QSOs after the contest is not allowed. All
> logging must be  performed in real time (emphasis added).
>
> When you are working stations  and make use of SCP, the contact has not
> been
> LOGGED yet. I read the  change to prohibit after the fact changes. As SCP
> is
> used before the  contact is logged, I do not believe they prohibited SCP
> with
> this  change.
>
> Tom NY4I
> ny4i at arrl.net (Blog: www.ny4i.com)
> Palm Harbor,  FL (Grid:  EL88pb)
>
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