[CQ-Contest] Remote

[w5ov at w5ov.com]

The station on Mars would *have to be a repeater* as there is no
infrastructure between Mars and the other operator either.  Until
inter-planetary fiber is run, it would have to be a repeater.

Your Bluetooth scenario is precisely correct - it is not a repeater.



> Using the same logic, if I had a Bluetooth headset/microphone (frequencies
> restricted to keep it within the 2.4 gHz ham band), then that too would be
> a repeater station? I disagree -- the link between the control point and
> the radio is part of the same station. Now, if I contacted someone via a
> Mars rover, as far as I am concerned, I contacted a radio on Mars. Does it
> count for awards/contest? That is up to the sponsor. If they allow it --
> it
> counts. Same with any remote control -- if allowed, it counts, if not, it
> doesn't. --Mike, WV2ZOW
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:11 PM, <w5ov at w5ov.com> wrote:
>
>> In this case, it would be a 'repeater'; invalid for contest purposes and
>> most others.
>>
>> W5OV
>>
>> > Remote Operating
>> >
>> > As I said before:  "the technology exists today to place a station
>> capable
>> > of remote operation on each and every DXCC entity in the world."
>> >
>> > But it actually goes beyond that.  We put a “rover† on Mars (the
>> > planet) right?  Two I believe.
>> >
>> > If my web search is correct, the Mars rover(s) operates in or around
>> > X-band, and there just happens to be an amateur radio allocation in
>> the
>> > X-band at 10-10.5GHz. Looks like dropping the frequency from about
>> 10.7GHz
>> > to 10.5GHz ought to do it.  It is probably not quite this simple, but
>> bear
>> > with me here.
>> >
>> > Are there 2 NASA scientist hams out there willing to reconfigure the
>> > rovers a bit so that they can complete the first interplanetary
>> amateur
>> > radio QSO?
>> >
>> > But who do we say was the operator on Mars ? I mean, which one worked
>> Mars
>> > first?
>> > If an operator does not have to be at the remote station, then it
>> counts
>> > right?
>> > All you have to do is get the equipment there.
>> >
>> > Would you claim the first interplanetary QSO, if no one was at the
>> other
>> > end?
>> >
>> > Now, I am not saying remote operation is good or bad, but at what
>> point
>> > does it count or not count?
>> >
>> > If you remote across borders, don’t you need at a minimum the proper
>> > license to do that?
>> > And also know that the country you remote to, allows remote operation
>> not
>> > just from another country but possibly by a non-citizen?
>> >
>> > New rule proposal:  for all remote contest operations, have the
>> operator
>> > submit evidence of proper licensing, similar as is done for DXCC
>> approved
>> > operations, you have to prove you had permission to operate a station
>> from
>> > the location/country you remote to.  And also prove that you really
>> > operated a remote station located where you claim it is located.
>> >
>> > 73 Scott W2LC
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