[CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport

[Vasiliy - K3IT]

I would be really interested to try a new contest format where real-time
(or within 10 min) QSO submission is a requirement, and only the cross
checked QSOs count for points.  Not only this gives real time scoring, it
would also take care of some of the forms of "unfair" play (and introduce
the new ones ;).  If this format becomes popular why not carefully
introduce it to CQWW...

Vasiliy k3it
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Ward Silver <hwardsil at gmail.com> wrote:

> Internet access is becoming less of an issue every day.  At normal QSO
> rates, even slow dial-up can handle the regular submission of an XML text
> packet describing a QSO.  N6KT rates may require broadband :-)
>
> Some contests will likely appear that require on-line connection
> throughout.  The scoreboards for existing contests will probably evolve to
> handle more and more scoring in real-time until the non-connected entries
> are handled like paper logs today, integrated into the results by a manual
> process.
>
> 73, Ward N0AX
>
>
> On 3/10/2013 12:05 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> As long as real-time reporting does not become the price of entry.
>>
>> Odd as it may sound, there are enough operators who don't have access to
>> the
>> internet from the places they wish to contest from.
>>
>> 73, kelly
>> ve4xt
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/13 9:46 AM, "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>  The CQWW published raw scores just 7 days after the contest for CW/SSB in
>>> 2012.  We will continue to do so.  Waiting to see how you did is getting
>>> shorter.
>>>
>>> The online real-time score boards are the way to go.  They make the
>>> contest
>>> into a real video game/race.
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@**contesting.com<cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com>]
>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>> Ward Silver
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, the biggest obstacle to maintaining the connected
>>>> generation's interest in radiosport is how long it takes to figure out
>>>> who actually won.  The contests are fairly exciting and challenging
>>>> whether you use spotting information or not.  They get that and are
>>>> intrigued by the worldwide aspect and the dependence on solar and
>>>> terrestrial conditions.  But their interest usually dissipates
>>>> immediately (and irrevocably) when you explain that the results aren't
>>>> known for several weeks or months.  Even the fastest reporting - WRTC's
>>>> 24-hours - is ridiculous to someone accustomed to knowing their score
>>>> and
>>>> place not only immediately following the end of the game but at all
>>>> times
>>>> throughout the game.
>>>>
>>>> So we can argue all we want about format and point counts and spots or
>>>> no
>>>> spots but those come in a distant second.  I don't believe there is much
>>>> to be gained by changing the user interface to be more game-like, rather
>>>> to use the power of the Internet to conduct the administration of the
>>>> event in the time-frame to which people have become accustomed.
>>>> "Waiting for the magazine to come out" is not part of the modern
>>>> sporting
>>>> lexicon.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Ward N0AX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/10/2013 6:09 AM, W9OL wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would only comment that....if you watch the kids today. They play
>>>>> video games. Faster, more instinctive, instant gratification, almost
>>>>> to the point of addictive. A slower, more polite, contest may not
>>>>> attract any of the young bloods. Now don't dump on me....I work a lot
>>>>> of contests, nice and easy, chase who I want, and have a quiet type of
>>>>> fun. But I don't think the kids - potentially ham contesters, would
>>>>> find a more relaxed contesting style attractive. But then I may be
>>>>> wrong...it happens, ask my wife! On 2013-03-09 4:48 PM, Radio K0HB
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Radioman skills would improve.  Contesting would be a lot more
>>>>>>> rewarding, with a real sense of accomplishment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2013, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  What is the downside of nobody using cluster spots in contests?
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom W7WHY
>>>>>>>>>
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