[CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport

[Bill Parry]

I usually agree with Ward on most things but I don't think that online
logging is a good thing.  I work contests because I like to work contests. I
like working lots of countries, I like seeing how fast I can work stations,
I like improving my radio skills.  My computer is another thing. I use
computers nearly every day but I don't enjoy fooling with/nor have the skill
to figure out how to make my computer interconnect with my logging program
nor some website that may change at the whim of the owner from day to day.

I have the skill to make an .adi file and upload it to 3830 with no problem.
I have tried to get my equipment to connect with the online websites before
but it appears that it is impossible to consistently connect and keep
connected. I want to contest - not play with my computer. Let me know when
the technology is such that I can click a button on whatever system I am
using (Win7, Win 8, Vista, XP, apple) and whatever contest program that I am
using and is consistently reliable and I will be more than happy to get with
the program!

Otherwise, I don't have a problem with making this exercise optional for
those that like to play with their computers as much as they like to work
contests. 

Bill W5VX

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Ward Silver
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:10 AM
To: Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport

Internet access is becoming less of an issue every day.  At normal QSO
rates, even slow dial-up can handle the regular submission of an XML text
packet describing a QSO.  N6KT rates may require broadband :-)

Some contests will likely appear that require on-line connection throughout.
The scoreboards for existing contests will probably evolve to handle more
and more scoring in real-time until the non-connected entries are handled
like paper logs today, integrated into the results by a manual process.

73, Ward N0AX

On 3/10/2013 12:05 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
> As long as real-time reporting does not become the price of entry.
>
> Odd as it may sound, there are enough operators who don't have access 
> to the internet from the places they wish to contest from.
>
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>
>
> On 3/10/13 9:46 AM, "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> The CQWW published raw scores just 7 days after the contest for 
>> CW/SSB in 2012.  We will continue to do so.  Waiting to see how you 
>> did is getting shorter.
>>
>> The online real-time score boards are the way to go.  They make the 
>> contest into a real video game/race.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Ward Silver
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:36 PM
>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the biggest obstacle to maintaining the connected 
>>> generation's interest in radiosport is how long it takes to figure 
>>> out who actually won.  The contests are fairly exciting and 
>>> challenging whether you use spotting information or not.  They get 
>>> that and are intrigued by the worldwide aspect and the dependence on 
>>> solar and terrestrial conditions.  But their interest usually 
>>> dissipates immediately (and irrevocably) when you explain that the 
>>> results aren't known for several weeks or months.  Even the fastest 
>>> reporting - WRTC's 24-hours - is ridiculous to someone accustomed to 
>>> knowing their score and place not only immediately following the end 
>>> of the game but at all times throughout the game.
>>>
>>> So we can argue all we want about format and point counts and spots 
>>> or no spots but those come in a distant second.  I don't believe 
>>> there is much to be gained by changing the user interface to be more 
>>> game-like, rather to use the power of the Internet to conduct the 
>>> administration of the event in the time-frame to which people have
become accustomed.
>>> "Waiting for the magazine to come out" is not part of the modern 
>>> sporting lexicon.
>>>
>>> 73, Ward N0AX
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/10/2013 6:09 AM, W9OL wrote:
>>>> I would only comment that....if you watch the kids today. They play 
>>>> video games. Faster, more instinctive, instant gratification, 
>>>> almost to the point of addictive. A slower, more polite, contest 
>>>> may not attract any of the young bloods. Now don't dump on me....I 
>>>> work a lot of contests, nice and easy, chase who I want, and have a 
>>>> quiet type of fun. But I don't think the kids - potentially ham 
>>>> contesters, would find a more relaxed contesting style attractive. 
>>>> But then I may be wrong...it happens, ask my wife! On 2013-03-09 
>>>> 4:48 PM, Radio K0HB
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Radioman skills would improve.  Contesting would be a lot more 
>>>>>> rewarding, with a real sense of accomplishment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2013, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the downside of nobody using cluster spots in contests?
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom W7WHY
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