[CQ-Contest] CQ WW Rules Changes

Steve Sacco NN4X nn4x at embarqmail.com
Sun May 26 19:32:12 EDT 2013


Hi Hans -

I stand by my argument.

Busted calls ARE a rules infraction - the rules require that we claim 
can claim QSO credit only for valid QSO's, which naturally enough, would 
include a valid callsign and exchange..  The choice to log it or not is 
up to the operator, and they should not be encouraged to guess.

Keeping the American football analogy going, you won't see points 
removed for missing a field goal, but that's a poor example.  You WILL 
see a team be assessed yardage for, say, holding, even if it's 
"unintentional".

HOWEVER, we need to look no further than college football to see that 
the NCAA revokes wins for rules infractions: 
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/friv/forfeits.cgi This is considered 
reasonable and proper, for exactly the same reasons we do in radiosport.

If we shift the sport to auto racing, we find that teams and drivers are 
assessed penalties after the fact (after the race), even for 
unintentional mistakes.  These penalties are levied to punish 
wrong-doing, and to emphasize, even for those unintentional mistakes, 
that the teams and drivers are accountable for their actions.

That is the exact same situation we have in radiosport.

73,
Steve
NN4X



On 5/26/2013 11:18 AM, Radio K0HB wrote:
> Your analogy is not relevant to the discussion, Steve.  Your example 
> addresses the violation of rules  (which we'd all agree ought to be 
> penalized).
>
> Poor copying or logging skills (busted calls, transposed serials, etc) 
> are not rules infractions.
>
> These are not rewarded by points, just as a missed field goal is not 
> rewarded by points.  But I never saw an additional 3 points (or 6 or 9 
> points) removed for a missed FG.
>
> 73, Hans, K0HB
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2013, Steve Sacco NN4X wrote
>
>
>     Actually, this exact type of issue has been worked out in any
>     number of sports.
>
>     Let's take American football: Depending upon the infraction, the
>     offending team does not simply lose their turn, or force a "do
>     over"; they're assessed yards, or a loss of down or similar.  The
>     point is to encourage abiding by the rules, and strongly
>     discourage breaking them by making their infraction painful, and
>     causing them to not want to do it again.
>
>
>
> -- 
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
> "Just a boy and his radio"
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>
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