[CQ-Contest] WPX CW

Thu May 30 10:49:37 EDT 2013

Yes, I know, but they listen to one rx antenna at the time.
And typically they asks only once (if ever) whether a frequency is busy.
I always run into that problem when operating low power and being jumped on.

73
Peter

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From: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com [mailto:Cqtestk4xs at aol.com] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2013 16:11
To: dj7ww at t-online.de
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW

Big gun stations use multiple antennas for rx and tx sometimes.  I do.

Bill K4XS/KH7XS

In a message dated 5/30/2013 1:52:19 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,
dj7ww at t-online.de writes:

It always happens when multiple antenna directions are used by the big gun
stations on tx and a single antenna direction on rx.

73
Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Mats Strandberg
Sent: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2013 06:08
To: k5zd at charter.net
Cc: Steve Bookout; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW

This is a very important point.

I am myself not better than others. I was "jumped on" by a few Aligator big
guns, with signal strenghts of around 559-579 on 20 meters. I do not think
they intentionally wanted to steaa my frequency (20 meter CW, me using 800
W), but more a simple issue that the difference in power  between us made
them not hear my 800 W "QRP" signals...

I feel tempted to address this openly on the forum with call signs, because
this is a SYSTEM more than an unlucky coincidence.I now begin to understand
which stations run more and which run less than Full Legal Limit. Anyone
else noticed ths same phenomena?

But still I am gathering "courage" and as close to 100% statistical evidence
that my assumptions are correct.

The same intereting issue is that some stations seem to have extremely
"noicy" RX conditions - always. With such signal strenghts as described
above, I still always (no exceptions) need to repeat my call and serial
numbers many times, while this is not the case when calling weak US big guns
during poor conditions when signal strengths are 519-539.

In 95% of the cases, US and Canadian stations are still able to get both my
call and serial numbers just sent one.

Interesting difference between US and European (and other) big guns...

73 de RM2D (Mats)

2013/5/30 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net>

> They will be "held accountable" when people are willing to name calls 
> in these public complaints...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Steve Bookout
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:29 PM
> > To: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com
> > Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > As we know, sometimes 'stuff' happens when changing rcvr filters, 
> > RIT or changing antennas.  These bad situations shouldn't really 
> > last longer than it takes to flip a switch or spin the dial.  
> > Sometimes neither station feels THEY should be the one to move.  Like I
said 'stuff'
> > happens and this is contesting.
> >
> > This becomes a problem, WHEN THE SAME STATION, time after time, 
> > contest after contest, drops on top of you and starts CQ'ing.
> >
> > People, +\- 100 Hz is not a clear frequency!
> >
> > There are a couple of stations that are infamous for this. When will 
> > they be held accountable for their arrogance and poor operating ethics?
> >
> > 73 de Steve, NR4M
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 29, 2013, at 7:28, Cqtestk4xs at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > My favorite is a certain zone 8 station that called me on my 
> > > frequency and then after he worked me, began to call CQ 100Hz away 
> > > from my run freq. It took a  couple of minutes to pry him off me.
> > >
> > > Bill K4XS/KH7XS
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/29/2013 10:48:23 A.M. Coordinated Universal 
> > > Tim, g4odv at yahoo.co.uk writes:
> > >
> > > Hello  Jesus,
> > >
> > > I am truly sorry to have caused you this concern, I should have  
> > > said that it was a remarkable  coincidence that you landed on my 
> > > qrg, which did happen 3 or 4 times . I really should have put that 
> > > in a better way  or preferably not mentioned it at all. Please 
> > > accept my
> > public  apologies..
> > >
> > > 73  Bria
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EC1KR Jesus  <ec1kr at ec1kr.com>
> > > To: g4odv at yahoo.co.uk
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 28 May  2013, 17:24
> > > Subject: WPX CW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Brian.
> > >
> > > Just  read your comments at 3830scores  about
> > > us:
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > > On the other hand it  was remarkable the number of times ED1R 
> > > chose to land on my qrg. He was  weak and I am not saying he was 
> > > hearing me but I was hearing his callers  who were busting up the 
> > > esp numbers I was trying to  get..
> > > --------------------------
> > >
> > > If we were weak there perhaps  we did not hear you at all as you 
> > > are off the back or off the side of our  beams. Also we set very 
> > > narrow filtering. Elementary it is not our  intention to make 
> > > delibetate QRM and we always play within the contest  rules. 
> > > Nevertheless we apologize for the trouble. Next time please do not  
> > > hesitate to turn your antenna and ask for QSY.
> > >
> > > We do not seek  controversy, but understands that is a Contest 
> > > with a very bad propagation  conditions where punishment not we 
> > > heard each other.
> > >
> > > A  greeting.
> > >
> > > 73 de Jesus EC1KR / ED1R
> > > Blog.    www.ec1kr.com
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