[CQ-Contest] WPX CW

steve.root at culligan4water.com steve.root at culligan4water.com
Thu May 30 13:34:42 EDT 2013


I hesitate to do this. In the most recent CQWW SSB contest, I had the same station plop down without asking and start calling CQ on my run frequency three times in the same afternoon. (No, I wasn't operating SO2R and leaving the frequency). The third time I went ballistic and yelled at him until he left. Now this was a multi-op, and there's a reasonably good chance that the owner/operator of this station had no idea "Mr. Anonymous" was acting like such a jerk. Hopefully he gets some idea and chooses his team better next time around. I not sure calling him out publicly would be a better way to handle this. 

73 Steve K0SR 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Smith N4ZR [mailto:n4zr at contesting.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 08:49 AM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW

It seems to me that the "don't name names" syndrome is fairly widespread in ham radio, though perhaps a little less so than in prior years. I've always been inclined to identify this as "Don Miller syndrome," dating to the time when ARRL was sued for disallowing some of his phonier DXpeditions. It's time to stop being gun-shy, folks - we now have at least some of the evidence, in the form of I/Q recordings of entire contests, so there's no reason not to bring public opinion to bear. I'm not specifically talking about operating practices here, but about at least the more egregious of rule violations. If you know about it, call 'em on it, publicly!73, Pete N4ZRCheck out the Reverse Beacon Network athttp://reversebeacon.net,blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.For spots, please go to your favoriteARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.On 5/30/2013 12:07 AM, Mats Strandberg wrote:> This is a very important point.>> I am myself not better than others. I was "jumped on" by a few Aligator big> guns, with signal strenghts of around 559-579 on 20 meters. I do not think> they intentionally wanted to steaa my frequency (20 meter CW, me using 800> W), but more a simple issue that the difference in power between us made> them not hear my 800 W "QRP" signals...>> I feel tempted to address this openly on the forum with call signs, because> this is a SYSTEM more than an unlucky coincidence.I now begin to understand> which stations run more and which run less than Full Legal Limit. Anyone> else noticed ths same phenomena?>> But still I am gathering "courage" and as close to 100% statistical> evidence that my assumptions are correct.>> The same intereting issue is that some stations seem to have extremely> "noicy" RX conditions - always. With such signal strenghts as described> above, I still always (no exceptions) need to repeat my call and serial> numbers many times, while this is not the case when calling weak US big> guns during poor conditions when signal strengths are 519-539.>> In 95% of the cases, US and Canadian stations are still able to get both my> call and serial numbers just sent one.>> Interesting difference between US and European (and other) big guns...>>> 73 de RM2D (Mats)>>> 2013/5/30 Randy Thompson K5ZD >>> They will be "held accountable" when people are willing to name calls in>> these public complaints...>>>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of>>> Steve Bookout>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:29 PM>>> To: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW>>>>>> Hello all,>>>>>> As we know, sometimes 'stuff' happens when changing rcvr filters, RIT or>>> changing antennas. These bad situations shouldn't really last longer>>> than it takes to flip a switch or spin the dial. Sometimes neither>>> station feels THEY should be the one to move. Like I said 'stuff'>>> happens and this is contesting.>>>>>> This becomes a problem, WHEN THE SAME STATION, time after time, contest>>> after contest, drops on top of you and starts CQ'ing.>>>>>> People, +\- 100 Hz is not a clear frequency!>>>>>> There are a couple of stations that are infamous for this. When will they>>> be held accountable for their arrogance and poor operating ethics?>>>>>> 73 de Steve, NR4M>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 29, 2013, at 7:28, Cqtestk4xs at aol.com wrote:>>>>>>> My favorite is a certain zone 8 station that called me on my frequency>>>> and then after he worked me, began to call CQ 100Hz away from my run>>>> freq. It took a couple of minutes to pry him off me.>>>>>>>> Bill K4XS/KH7XS>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/29/2013 10:48:23 A.M. Coordinated Universal Tim,>>>> g4odv at yahoo.co.uk writes:>>>>>>>> Hello Jesus,>>>>>>>> I am truly sorry to have caused you this concern, I should have said>>>> that it was a remarkable coincidence that you landed on my qrg,>>>> which did happen 3 or 4 times . I really should have put that in a>>>> better way or preferably not mentioned it at all. Please accept my>>> public apologies..>>>> 73 Bria>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________>>>> From: EC1KR Jesus >>>> To: g4odv at yahoo.co.uk>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2013, 17:24>>>> Subject: WPX CW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian.>>>>>>>> Just read your comments at 3830scores about>>>> us:>>>>>>>> ------------------------->>>> On the other hand it was remarkable the number of times ED1R chose to>>>> land on my qrg. He was weak and I am not saying he was hearing me but>>>> I was hearing his callers who were busting up the esp numbers I was>>>> trying to get..>>>> -------------------------->>>>>>>> If we were weak there perhaps we did not hear you at all as you are>>>> off the back or off the side of our beams. Also we set very narrow>>>> filtering. Elementary it is not our intention to make delibetate QRM>>>> and we always play within the contest rules. Nevertheless we>>>> apologize for the trouble. Next time please do not hesitate to turn>>>> your antenna and ask for QSY.>>>>>>>> We do not seek controversy, but understands that is a Contest with a>>>> very bad propagation conditions where punishment not we heard each>>>> other.>>>>>>>> A greeting.>>>>>>>> 73 de Jesus EC1KR / ED1R>>>> Blog. www.ec1kr.com>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>> _______________________________________________>>> CQ-Contest mailing list>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>> _______________________________________________>> CQ-Contest mailing list>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>> _______________________________________________> CQ-Contest mailing list> CQ-Contest at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>_______________________________________________CQ-Contest mailing listCQ-Contest at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest


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