[CQ-Contest] Running ID

[Gerry Hull]

During CQWW SSB, I remember a station in Africa who was not identifying
himself except every half hour (or longer).  I laughed so hard when an
(obviously) young operator finally broke the the pile and said:
"You know, sir, you could probably work a lot more DX and contest stations
if you would give your call more often."

The irony in this is that the entire world was in the pileup.   Did the
operator even acknowledge the comment?  Nope, and didn't identify either.

This is a hard problem to solve, and can probably only be rectified by
sanctions or disqualification.  If the operator is not interested in the
standings, there is really nothing that can be done.

It's an easy problem to prove with contest recordings.

73, Gerry W1VE


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM, <w2lc at twcny.rr.com> wrote:

> When S&P I use the old adage of work-em first and worry about it later.
>  However not IDing complicates that strategy.  When S&P I try to keep the
> rate up, so I often call a station before I know who it is.  If they do not
> ID very soon afterwards, I give them a NIL.  Can’t log a QSO with the call
> sign field blank.  Yes I sometimes put them into memory and listen later.
> Or use the second radio. But I am not going to wait 10 Q’s for an ID, 2 or
> 3 maybe but not much more.
>
> I look at it this way, it is the responsibility of every station to ID,
> and if they don’t ID they risk getting a NIL.  You can't log what you don't
> receive. I don’t like losing the Q but no ID, no call, no Q, pretty simple.
>  The other station only loses a W2, so no big deal.
>
> Rick K6VVA said:  “Failing to ID on a reasonable basis is arrogant
> selfishness at the expense of other people's valuable time.  …..   The
> worst example of arrogant, selfish, irresponsible foolishness is the
> expedition operator I clocked several years ago making QSOs for 30 minutes
> straight without sending his callsign even once”.
>
> Well Rick, I agree, a few years ago (maybe the same DXpedition) I worked
> one of those DXpeditions and listened about 2-1/2 hours for an ID while I
> worked on something else in the shack.  I never did hear the station ID.
>  So I went on the internet and looked it up.  Is that really a QSO? I'll
> call it assisted!
>
> Since the DXpedition accreditation people approved the operation for award
> credit, that implies that IDing is optional. No ID for several hours should
> mean no credit for the operation what so ever. But the approval says
> otherwise, IDing is indeed optional. At least for now. And I always thought
> you had to operate within the rules of the country you are in, but I guess
> not.
>
> 73 Scott W2LC
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