[CQ-Contest] Running ID

[w2lc at twcny.rr.com]

Not trying to get a “heated” exchange going again. But I would like some stations to ID more often.  But now regretting making any comment at all about stations that do not ID.  Or my practice of giving out NILs now and then,  But still no call, no Q, can't leave the callsign field blank

KK9A said:  So you worked the station and then remove the QSO from your log because you did not copy all of the necessary information? (not all of the necessary information was sent) That is a terrible operating practice! It would be a much better to ask for the callsign during your report - just before you send your report. I have never seen anyone refuse to ID when asked this way.

I have. I have sent “cl?” then finished the exchange only to have the other station not ID send “tu” and move on to the next Q. Expecting me to wait I guess.

BTW, It is impossible to copy what is not being sent, so if the other station doesn’t ID, there is not much you can do about it

What was it rule 5: don’t call without knowing the callsign of the other station. That means passing by a lot of stations. I can do that

I don’t like losing a Q or giving out a nil, but John IDing is required by the sending station too isn’t it? Yes? No?
Doesn’t the non-IDing station need to follow the contest rules too? And also the rules of his country?

Does anyone accept not IDing as a good operating practice?

Also, I have heard some non-assisted stations complete QSOs with the non-IDer and then not ask for the callsign. Which I find curious. I operate without assistance so I actually have to hear a call sign in order to log it. 

Not IDing may be best way to promote operating assisted or using skimmer, an advertising tactic so to speak, force people to use assistance in order to get callsigns.  hmmmmm .... no still not interested in doing that. 

73 Scott W2LC