[CQ-Contest] Automation = lost essential skills

[ve4xt at mymts.net]

That depends. If the receiving station heard the callsign, then the callsign was sent, even if people who came late to the frequency didn't hear it. 

An example:

qrz, w1xyz
 (vy2zm and g3tuc are now listening and know who is on frequency. (IOW, they've heard w1xyz send his call))
vy2zm
vy2zm 599 05
599 05
tu
g3tuc
g3tuc 599 05
599 14
tu
k1zz
k1zz 599 05
CL?
w1xyz
r w1xyz 599 05

In my book, all three QSOs are legit. Everybody received w1xyz's call. 

Am I right?

73, Kelly
ve4xt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2013, at 21:03, "Ken McCormack" <zl1aih at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Kelly wrote "Does a Q exist if one station does not send the exchange correctly?"
> 
> Similarly, does a Q exist if one station does not send his/her call sign?
> 
> 73, Ken ZL1AIH 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM, <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:
>> How does all this reconcile with the idea a QSO only happens when both stations SEND, receive, log and ack the exchange and callsign information correctly.
>> 
>> Does a Q exist if one station does not send the exchange correctly?
>> 
>> 73, Kelly
>> ve4xt
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 20, 2013, at 17:24, "Maarten van Rossum" <pd2r.maarten at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hans,
>> >
>> > I completely agree. But unfortunately the answer I wrote in my email is the
>> > official answer of the CQWW contest committee.
>> >
>> > 73, Maarten PD2R
>> >
>> > Op woensdag 20 november 2013 schreef Radio K0HB (kzerohb at gmail.com):
>> >
>> >> Bad answer.
>> >>
>> >> I do not carry in my head a reliable Prefix-to-Zone lookup table, and I am
>> >> not about to consult a wall map in the heat of the contest, so the correct
>> >> answer is "Log the zone based on what the station transmits".
>> >>
>> >> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Maarten van Rossum
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:00 PM
>> >> To: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com ; CQcontest Reflector
>> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Automation = lost essential skills
>> >>
>> >> Oeps, I spoke to soon. Check the rules FAQ, it clearly states what you
>> >> should do:
>> >>
>> >> "Q I worked a station and they do not now
>> >> their CQ zone or they give me a serial number, what should I put in the
>> >> log?"
>> >>
>> >> "A Log the zone base on their location"
>> >>
>> >>
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>> > 73, Maarten PD2R
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