[CQ-Contest] Automation = lost essential skills

[Joe]

But then again, should not the transmitting station know where they are?

If people correct my station in the IARU from what I send because some 
places and logging programs place me in Zone 8, I am not in 8 i am in 7  
still 9 land, AND still Wisconsin. But I AM in 07 and anyone that 
changes it to what they think and may programs think as well as some web 
sites say that i am in 08 they are wrong.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 11/20/2013 6:09 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
> Kelly, the onus must be borne by the transmitting station.    The receiving station cannot be responsible to second guess what "should" have been sent, and cannot lose points for correctly transcribing to what was actually sent.
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> You, as the receiver, must be able to trust John N0IJ when he inadvertently sends his SEC as MN in SSCW because he misloaded his f-key macros, even if you remember from an MWA reflector that he said he was going to his WI shack for the weekend, and the the contest sponsor must credit you with correctly copying the exchange.
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> 73, de Hans, K0HB
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> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:44 PM, null <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:
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>> How does all this reconcile with the idea a QSO only happens when both stations SEND, receive, log and ack the exchange and callsign information correctly.
>> Does a Q exist if one station does not send the exchange correctly?
>> 73, Kelly
>> ve4xt
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 17:24, "Maarten van Rossum" <pd2r.maarten at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hans,
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>>> I completely agree. But unfortunately the answer I wrote in my email is the
>>> official answer of the CQWW contest committee.
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>>> 73, Maarten PD2R
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>>> Op woensdag 20 november 2013 schreef Radio K0HB (kzerohb at gmail.com):
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>>>> Bad answer.
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>>>> I do not carry in my head a reliable Prefix-to-Zone lookup table, and I am
>>>> not about to consult a wall map in the heat of the contest, so the correct
>>>> answer is "Log the zone based on what the station transmits".
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>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
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>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Maarten van Rossum
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:00 PM
>>>> To: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com ; CQcontest Reflector
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Automation = lost essential skills
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>>>> Oeps, I spoke to soon. Check the rules FAQ, it clearly states what you
>>>> should do:
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>>>> "Q I worked a station and they do not now
>>>> their CQ zone or they give me a serial number, what should I put in the
>>>> log?"
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>>>> "A Log the zone base on their location"
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>>> -- 
>>> 73, Maarten PD2R
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