[CQ-Contest] Automation = lost essential skills

[Peter Chamalian W1RM]

The SS exchange emulates the preamble/header of an ARRL format message
(traffic) so each element is required.  Sending the call a second time isn't
all bad because it helps the receiving station verify what they think is the
right call as what's being sent.

It's utter madness when DX stations (W's too) run for periods and don't sign
their call.  A bad spot results in a massive pileup by guys thinking they
have a new one and the running station gets to fill up his log with dupes
until he realizes what's happened.

Now for the example with w1xyz, he should follow the same concept of signing
his call after each QSO.  The exception (and I do this at times) is when you
hear a weak guy calling who keeps getting beaten by louder guys.  If I don't
sign my call at the end of a QSO then the pile is a little thinner and that
weak guy can be heard.  Of course after that Q, I sign my call.

Pete, W1RM

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
David Siddall
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:02 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Automation = lost essential skills

Kelly,

You are right in my book too.  But one exception is sweepstakes.  I don't
know the rationale, but some years ago the ARRL contest manager ruled that
in sweepstakes only discrete complete exchanges are allowed.  This extra
requirement doesn't seem to appear explicitly in the current rules (at least
that I can find), but I remember a lengthy thread on the subject on this
reflector.

Example 1:  NOT PERMITTED even though all required exchange information
transmitted & received.

VE4XT:  CQ CQ SS de VE4XT
K3ZJ:     K3ZJ
VE4XT:   K3ZJ 145 A 66 MB

Example 2: Required exchange necessitates repeating call.

VE4XT:  CQ CQ SS de VE4XT
K3ZJ:     K3ZJ
VE4XT:   K3ZJ 145 A VE4XT 66 MB

73, Dave K3ZJ

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That depends. If the receiving station heard the callsign, then the callsign
was sent, even if people who came late to the frequency didn't hear it.

An example:

qrz, w1xyz
 (vy2zm and g3tuc are now listening and know who is on frequency.
(IOW, they've heard w1xyz send his call)) vy2zm vy2zm 599 05
599 05
tu
g3tuc
g3tuc 599 05
599 14
tu
k1zz
k1zz 599 05
CL?
w1xyz
r w1xyz 599 05

In my book, all three QSOs are legit. Everybody received w1xyz's call.

Am I right?

73, Kelly
ve4xt
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