[CQ-Contest] Ethics of operating overtime in SS

Kelly Taylor ve4xt at mymts.net
Mon Oct 28 12:48:43 EDT 2013

Hi Art,

Glad to have you visit us. Hope you have a good contest.

What you propose, however...

It's against the rules. Sorry.
Plain and simple. The rules clearly state that off time means without
operating. It doesn't say 'without operating FOR CREDIT'. Any time you're
not operating is off time, before, during or after you've exhausted your 24

The 24-hour restriction isn't about letting stations work the entire contest
and then claim only the best 24 hours. Nor is it about letting stations keep
their receivers on during the 'off time' so as to not miss an opening.

It's about incorporating an element of station and propagation knowledge and

Even though that is not what you propose, I think the optics between being
charitable to those needing VE4 and cherry-picking would be difficult to
discern and, in the end, irrelevant.

That being said: assuming the operator uses a different transmitter (Rule
3.5, general rules), there's nothing stopping someone who was NOT an
operator for the EA multiop effort, from firing up when you're not on the

(Rule 3.5 prohibits using the same transmitter under more than one callsign
(except in family situations). It doesn't say the rest of the station can't
be used.)

Nor is there a prohibition on a VE4EA op from relocating to VE4GV's place
and starting an entirely new operation at the new location. (Rule 3.2 says
you can't use more than one callsign from any given location. A new given
location resets that restriction, but of course it can't be for the purposes
of furthering the VE4EA log.) The reason for 3.2 and 3.5, as clearly stated
in the rules, is to prohibit operators from manufacturing contacts for their
own operations. As long as you aren't doing that, which you wouldn't be
since VE4EA would then be off the air, you're good.

I would also argue that the 24-hour restriction means anyone who can't work
VE4EA during EA's 24 hours doesn't deserve to work EA, irrespective of
whether that that means they don't get a sweep.

73, kelly

On 10/28/13 8:26 AM, "Rex Maner" <k7qq at netzero.net> wrote:

> HOW ???  Do I know that  VE4EA has used all his allowed operating time ?
> Rex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Art
> Boyars
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 8:58 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ethics of operating overtime in SS
> I vaguely recall a mention here of one aspect of KH6IJ's (SK)
> gentlemanliness:  He would keep on going in SS after he ran out of time,
> just to give more people the multiplier.
> I was thinking about that because the Mighty VE4EA Multi-Op Low Power
> operation might have a little time left at the end.  (We're not going to
> start until about 01Z, and with only two hours available for time off we
> MIGHT just go 24 straight.)  In any case, if there is still a pile of
> callers when we run out of time, is it ethical to keep going, just to give
> them the MB mult?
> What could be wrong with it?  Well, maybe you should have to work people
> only during the time they are eligible -- sort of like not working people
> before or after the contest.  Maybe part of the competition is that you have
> to be skillful enough to work the mult during his allotted 24 hours.
> Any thoughtful opinions out there?
> (Notice that I am typing this during CQWW SSB. Paraphrasing K5ZD (again),
> "If you are writing e-mails, you are not winning the contest."  Ah!  I knew
> there was a reason!)
> 73, Art K3KU
> Holder of Low Score Record for Summer Stew
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