[CQ-Contest] CQWW 1500 W output ... stop the limit :)

Dale Putnam daleputnam at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 11 18:34:46 EDT 2013

Having competed in the same contests... and read the same rules... and having read rules for contests many time over...the impression I have is that the wattmeter is connected directly to the transmitter, and read there. The power limit is determined at that point. Any deviation from that, needs to be reported directly to the nearest FCC Engineer in Charge, in the USA. For those stations outside the US of A, reports should be made to the appropriate enforcement authority.   And, having read the FCC rules several times, as applied to many different services, Amateur Radio being only one, the intent is clear. When required to report tx power, the dc power may be used, with the percentage of eff. of the finals included, along with transmission line impedance, as measured, and with what standard traceable instrument, and the rf current being carried.   Never saw allowances for transmission line losses allowed, in the figures, unless a standard of transmission field of radiation study was being done, to effect a radiation pattern study being requested by the FCC, and that was an unusual case.   Can someone please tell me where the references for allowing losses to be compensated for are? Or is this just another case of "I wanna have a big signal, no matter what the cost!"  ??  In which case, I will likely work around, over, through, and under them anyway, with my qrp signal, as measured at the transmitter.
Have a great day, 
--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy

> From: cwdude at gmail.com
> To: py8azt at dxbrasil.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:00:21 -0500
> CC: ha5pp_zoli at yahoo.com; kzerohb at gmail.com; w5ov at w5ov.com; k5zd at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 1500 W output ... stop the limit :)
> Luc,
> Your Spanish is not correct. You can't blame them for cheating if you don't 
> understand what you are reading. Read again and take back your accusations.
> 73 de Rob HK3CW
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Luc DXBrasil" <py8azt at dxbrasil.net>
> To: "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Cc: "Zoltan Szoke" <ha5pp_zoli at yahoo.com>; "Hans Brakob" 
> <kzerohb at gmail.com>; "Bob Naumann" <w5ov at w5ov.com>; "Randy Thompson K5ZD" 
> <k5zd at charter.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 1500 W output ... stop the limit :)
> > 2013/9/8 Hans Brakob <kzerohb at gmail.com>:
> >> Could we just suppose that good people observe the rules?
> >
> > Unfortunately, we cannot just suppose all 'good people' observe the rules.
> >
> > Look to this case from CQWW SSB 2011:
> > A newbee contester got excited by driving a big station for very first
> > time. He decided to share the experience in details on public e-mail
> > reflector (http://tinyurl.com/o9ozwcy). For no Spanish spoken, he
> > wrote that they were running 2.5kW and that station will been prepared
> > to put 4kW+ next time because coax loss.
> >
> > Even after receive this public declaration coming from an INSIDER
> > OPERATOR about rules violation, CQWW took no actions. They NEVER
> > contacted any of team members or the station owner asking for
> > explanations, instead, they sent a shinning PLAQUE for great team
> > achievement of #1 in SA.
> >
> > I bet this behavior was not a isolate episode. Once you taste the
> > dark-side of the power and you are rewarded by sponsors, Legal Limit
> > is not enough any more.
> >
> > Yes, It's a shame, but it true!
> >
> > 73, Luc
> > __
> > PW7T Team member
> > WRTC.2006 Brazilian Referee
> > WRTC.2010 Brazilian Team Leader
> > PY8AZT (also PT7AG, R37U, ZY7C, PX8C, ZZ8Z)
> > LABRE, ARRL, CWJF & Fortaleza DX Group Member
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