[CQ-Contest] The two/four-point rule in WPX

Martin , LU5DX lu5dx at lucg.com.ar
Thu Apr 10 10:05:40 EDT 2014

Of course the real problem lies behind the scoring system.
But since these are world wide and DX contests a distance-based scoring
system would be not perfect but certainly a whole lot fairer than the
current scheme.

Vy 73.

Martin, LU5DX

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Kim Östman <kim.ostman at tut.fi> wrote:

> Hi John,
> Removing the exception simply brings the NA Caribbean stations to everybody
> else's level and rules.
> If such playing under equal rules is seen as "unfair," then the problem
> lies
> with the basic scoring system, and you can't fix that with this kind of
> exception for just a privileged few.
> Again, there are two very distinct and separate things at play here:
> 1) The basic continental-divide scoring system
> 2) The 2/4-point NA exception to it
> Most agree that the first one is fundamentally flawed. But it is so
> entrenched that I'm afraid we will not see it changed before our hobby dies
> out.
> Thus I'm focusing only on the second one. We can't put band-aid on the big
> problem by maintaining a parochial exception that makes it even more
> "unfair" for everybody else. Numerous examples can be shown of how this has
> distorted contest results (beyond the basic system) and reversed final
> placements.
> In an event that purports to be a competition and to be worldwide, I think
> this piece of basic logic should be patently obvious. I'm happy to say that
> private communications around this thread are acknowledging this fact, even
> from among the beneficiaries.
> I'm still hoping to hear official answers to the two questions posed
> previously.
> 73
> Kim OH6KZP
> -----Original Message-----
> There is no way to make contesting fair. Changing north american contacts
> back one point would make it more unfair for stations in the Caribbean to
> compete with stations in South America.
> John KK9A
> To:      'Kim Östman' <kim.ostman at tut.fi>,   <cq-contest at
> contesting.com>
> Subject:         Re: [CQ-Contest] The two/four-point rule in WPX
> From:    "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd at charter.net>
> Reply-to:       k5zd at charter.net
> Date:    Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:45:20 -0000
> >From the CQ WW Handbook, January 1999, by Bob Cox, K3EST
> Brief History of the CQ WW Contest
> "... [1962] was when the North American two point rule
> came into existence. With such a rule, it was hoped that more
> activity would occur in the Caribbean and Central America
> countries. All these changes were brought into the rules by Frank,
> W1WY."
> This rule has definitely accomplished its purpose by motivating a lot of
> contest expeditions to the Caribbean.  I don't see this rule changing any
> time soon.
> Randy, K5ZD
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