[CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying

Mon Dec 8 23:50:51 EST 2014

Rich,
I do not know where you get your data from and I only checked 2014 SOAB 
category results at www.rdxc.org
It shows
7 KC1XX       2481 QSO confirmed 73, Igor UA9CDC----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w at verizon.net>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying


> Yah, the USA record for QSOs in RDXC is under 2000 - and that is from a 
> station in New England.
>
>
> I think folks need a little perspective on the level of activity in this 
> event (i.e., the last time I did it I was dying by 0800 out of sheer 
> boredom)...
>
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
>
> On 12/08/14, steve.root at culligan4water.com wrote:
>
> "3000 QSO in 24 hours in RDXC is not uncommon from almost anywhere."
>
> Let me tell you about Minnesota sometime :)
>
> 73 Steve K0SR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Sokolov [mailto:ua9cdc at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 12:12 AM
> To: 'David Siddall', wrtc2018 at lists.wrtc2018.de, cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying
>
> Dave,Can you support your statement regarding the number of participants 
> in RDXC, IARU and WPX with solid figures?ARRL, that was part of 2014 WRTYC 
> selection, for me is truly regional contest where unlike RDXC we can only 
> work US and VE and therefore pretty dull from areas where propagation to 
> NA last only few hours. In RDXC you can work any one anywhere wich does 
> not fit the discription of a regional contest but rather WW contest.I have 
> done ARRL couple of times from the very well equipped setup with multiple 
> stacks to only make 500-600 QSOs in 48 hours while 3000 QSO in 24 hours in 
> RDXC is not uncommon from almost anywhere.73, Igor UA9CDC> Thanks for your 
> thoughts. As I noted WAE & RDXC were elevated ABOVE CQWPX> and IARU. RDXC 
> & WAE certainly are enjoyed by many, they are fun> contests, but they do 
> not draw numbers of competitors with worldwide> distribution equivalent to 
> CQWPX & IARU. Do we really need social> engineering to push competitors 
> into this or that contest and
> tell us what> we "should" like? The numbers demonstrate the rankings for 
> what we *do*> like as a group, rather than individual preferences.>> 73, 
> Dave K3ZJ>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Mats Strandberg wrote:>>> 
> Dave,>>>> While I do argue with the 2018 organizers on the Assistsd/Non 
> Assisted>> issue, I fully support the decision to elevate WAE and RDXC to 
> the same>> level and CQWW and CQ WPX.>>>> Why?>>>> Simply becuase those 
> two contests are globally considered much bigger >> than>> they are in 
> some continents..I do consider the CQ contests superb and >> they>> will 
> forever remain as two of my favourite Top Five contests. However,>> 
> without question, WAE and RDXC have in late years become even more fun 
> to>> participate in - and this not only to Europeans and Russians. They 
> are >> now>> by me and many others considered at same popularity level as 
> the CQ>> contests.>>>> RDXC is not a regional contest. It is a Worldwide 
> contest where Russians>> compete separately and th
> e rest in a worldwide group. Working DX stations>> is heavily stimulated 
> by different points compared to working stations >> from>> the same 
> continent. The log checking and penalties system requires better>> 
> operator skills compared to some other contests where the contest 
> echange>> is more or less given. In RDXC, you nned to make sure you 
> receive both >> the>> other stations's callsign and exchange correctly. 
> Moreover, you must>> moderate your speed in a way that ensures that the 
> other station also >> gets>> your call and exchange correctly. If not, 
> penalties for both of you. I >> know>> this has caused some US 
> frustration, but in my honest opinion, this >> develop>> and stimulate 
> true operator skills rather than skills of relying on the>> database of 
> the log program.>>>> WAE used to be a contest I did not pay attention to 
> because of QTCs. They>> bothered me because I did not feel I was control 
> of them. It was a new >> way>> of contesting and I was against and did not 
> work
> WAE for many years. Then >> I>> gradualy started working it with pleasure 
> but always avoiding exhange of>> the "troublesome" QTCs. One day I decided 
> to open my eyes and challenge>> myself to try echanging QTCs. From that 
> day I got stuck! The skill-set>> needed to work WAE in full extent by 
> exchanging QTCs is different from>> normal contesting and the operator 
> that masters that additional >> complexity>> of WAE should definitely 
> receive the same credits as the one that runs >> 300+>> rates exchanging 
> predictable zones in a CQWW.>>>> It is time for Americans to finally 
> explore RDXC and WAE in a serious way>> and with 1000 points value, be 
> sure the bands will be boiling also in >> North>> America those weekends. 
> Run rates in RDXC are excellent for any station>> participating - for sure 
> not only for Russians. Particpate and enjoy>> instead of maintaining a 
> prejudiced opinion about these two great events!>>>> 73 de Mats RM2D 
> (SM6LRR)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-12-02 23:15 GMT+03:00 Dav
> id Siddall :>>>>> The difference in rules between WRTC2014 and WRTC2018 
> that struck me was>>> that the prior emphasis on worldwide contests while 
> accommodating the>>> major>>> regionals was abandoned.>>>>>> For WRTC2014, 
> only CQWW received full 1000 value, with CQWPX at 950 and>>> IARU at 900. 
> Major regional contests such as ARRL, Russian, WAE, AA >>> were>>> 900 or 
> less. But for WRTC2018, instead of elevating the truly worldwide>>> 
> contests -- CQWPX & IARU -- the organizers instead emphasize European>>> 
> regional contests -- WAE and Russian -- both of which now get the top >>> 
> 1000>>> value.>>>>>> This is a step backward from promoting worldwide 
> competition. It >>> elevates>>> two Euro-centric competitions with less 
> participation above the more>>> popular worldwide contests as well as 
> above the other major regionals >>> such>>> as ARRL and AA. Having lived 
> in areas of the world where propagation>>> doesn't support full time 
> efforts in the regionals (whether or not one >>> ca
> n>>> "work anyone" but for fewer points/mults), I appreciate the truly>>> 
> worldwide>>> competitions that we have. It says something that these rose 
> to the top>>> in>>> popularity in the free marketplace of contests.>>>>>> 
> Just my observation.>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ>>> 
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