[CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying

Tue Dec 9 07:29:13 EST 2014

There you go.  The 2014 year where the claimed score was above 2000 
QSOs.  But, I thought you said that "3000 QSO in 24 hours in RDXC is not 
uncommon from almost anywhere."

I see no evidence of that being anywhere close to being true from the 
United States for a single operator.  Can you show me?

73 Rich NN3W

On 12/8/2014 11:50 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> Rich,
> I do not know where you get your data from and I only checked 2014 
> SOAB category results at www.rdxc.org
> It shows
> 7 KC1XX       2481 QSO confirmed 73, Igor UA9CDC----- Original Message 
> ----- From: "Richard DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w at verizon.net>
> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying
>
>
>> Yah, the USA record for QSOs in RDXC is under 2000 - and that is from 
>> a station in New England.
>>
>>
>> I think folks need a little perspective on the level of activity in 
>> this event (i.e., the last time I did it I was dying by 0800 out of 
>> sheer boredom)...
>>
>>
>> 73 Rich NN3W
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/14, steve.root at culligan4water.com wrote:
>>
>> "3000 QSO in 24 hours in RDXC is not uncommon from almost anywhere."
>>
>> Let me tell you about Minnesota sometime :)
>>
>> 73 Steve K0SR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Igor Sokolov [mailto:ua9cdc at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 12:12 AM
>> To: 'David Siddall', wrtc2018 at lists.wrtc2018.de, 
>> cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying
>>
>> Dave,Can you support your statement regarding the number of 
>> participants in RDXC, IARU and WPX with solid figures?ARRL, that was 
>> part of 2014 WRTYC selection, for me is truly regional contest where 
>> unlike RDXC we can only work US and VE and therefore pretty dull from 
>> areas where propagation to NA last only few hours. In RDXC you can 
>> work any one anywhere wich does not fit the discription of a regional 
>> contest but rather WW contest.I have done ARRL couple of times from 
>> the very well equipped setup with multiple stacks to only make 
>> 500-600 QSOs in 48 hours while 3000 QSO in 24 hours in RDXC is not 
>> uncommon from almost anywhere.73, Igor UA9CDC> Thanks for your 
>> thoughts. As I noted WAE & RDXC were elevated ABOVE CQWPX> and IARU. 
>> RDXC & WAE certainly are enjoyed by many, they are fun> contests, but 
>> they do not draw numbers of competitors with worldwide> distribution 
>> equivalent to CQWPX & IARU. Do we really need social> engineering to 
>> push competitors into this or that contest and
>> tell us what> we "should" like? The numbers demonstrate the rankings 
>> for what we *do*> like as a group, rather than individual 
>> preferences.>> 73, Dave K3ZJ>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Mats 
>> Strandberg wrote:>>> Dave,>>>> While I do argue with the 2018 
>> organizers on the Assistsd/Non Assisted>> issue, I fully support the 
>> decision to elevate WAE and RDXC to the same>> level and CQWW and CQ 
>> WPX.>>>> Why?>>>> Simply becuase those two contests are globally 
>> considered much bigger >> than>> they are in some continents..I do 
>> consider the CQ contests superb and >> they>> will forever remain as 
>> two of my favourite Top Five contests. However,>> without question, 
>> WAE and RDXC have in late years become even more fun to>> participate 
>> in - and this not only to Europeans and Russians. They are >> now>> 
>> by me and many others considered at same popularity level as the CQ>> 
>> contests.>>>> RDXC is not a regional contest. It is a Worldwide 
>> contest where Russians>> compete separately and th
>> e rest in a worldwide group. Working DX stations>> is heavily 
>> stimulated by different points compared to working stations >> from>> 
>> the same continent. The log checking and penalties system requires 
>> better>> operator skills compared to some other contests where the 
>> contest echange>> is more or less given. In RDXC, you nned to make 
>> sure you receive both >> the>> other stations's callsign and exchange 
>> correctly. Moreover, you must>> moderate your speed in a way that 
>> ensures that the other station also >> gets>> your call and exchange 
>> correctly. If not, penalties for both of you. I >> know>> this has 
>> caused some US frustration, but in my honest opinion, this >> 
>> develop>> and stimulate true operator skills rather than skills of 
>> relying on the>> database of the log program.>>>> WAE used to be a 
>> contest I did not pay attention to because of QTCs. They>> bothered 
>> me because I did not feel I was control of them. It was a new >> 
>> way>> of contesting and I was against and did not work
>> WAE for many years. Then >> I>> gradualy started working it with 
>> pleasure but always avoiding exhange of>> the "troublesome" QTCs. One 
>> day I decided to open my eyes and challenge>> myself to try echanging 
>> QTCs. From that day I got stuck! The skill-set>> needed to work WAE 
>> in full extent by exchanging QTCs is different from>> normal 
>> contesting and the operator that masters that additional >> 
>> complexity>> of WAE should definitely receive the same credits as the 
>> one that runs >> 300+>> rates exchanging predictable zones in a 
>> CQWW.>>>> It is time for Americans to finally explore RDXC and WAE in 
>> a serious way>> and with 1000 points value, be sure the bands will be 
>> boiling also in >> North>> America those weekends. Run rates in RDXC 
>> are excellent for any station>> participating - for sure not only for 
>> Russians. Particpate and enjoy>> instead of maintaining a prejudiced 
>> opinion about these two great events!>>>> 73 de Mats RM2D 
>> (SM6LRR)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-12-02 23:15 GMT+03:00 Dav
>> id Siddall :>>>>> The difference in rules between WRTC2014 and 
>> WRTC2018 that struck me was>>> that the prior emphasis on worldwide 
>> contests while accommodating the>>> major>>> regionals was 
>> abandoned.>>>>>> For WRTC2014, only CQWW received full 1000 value, 
>> with CQWPX at 950 and>>> IARU at 900. Major regional contests such as 
>> ARRL, Russian, WAE, AA >>> were>>> 900 or less. But for WRTC2018, 
>> instead of elevating the truly worldwide>>> contests -- CQWPX & IARU 
>> -- the organizers instead emphasize European>>> regional contests -- 
>> WAE and Russian -- both of which now get the top >>> 1000>>> 
>> value.>>>>>> This is a step backward from promoting worldwide 
>> competition. It >>> elevates>>> two Euro-centric competitions with 
>> less participation above the more>>> popular worldwide contests as 
>> well as above the other major regionals >>> such>>> as ARRL and AA. 
>> Having lived in areas of the world where propagation>>> doesn't 
>> support full time efforts in the regionals (whether or not one >>> ca
>> n>>> "work anyone" but for fewer points/mults), I appreciate the 
>> truly>>> worldwide>>> competitions that we have. It says something 
>> that these rose to the top>>> in>>> popularity in the free 
>> marketplace of contests.>>>>>> Just my observation.>>>>>> 73, Dave 
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