[CQ-Contest] Clarification from DL1MGB

[Mats Strandberg]

Martin,

I would challenge you and claim that Brian is very correct on his statement
about power cheating.

You are correct about lack of solid statistics on cheating. The same
applies to sports and doping. Found and proven cases are few compared to
reality. Grey zone is huge is sports as well as in WRTC qualifications.

Yes, packet cheating is cheap, but reality is that packet cheating itself
will not make anyone qualify to WRTC. The cheater also needs very
competitive antennas and operator skill. Usually a packet cheater also
cheat with power... So I am more afraid for the non-packet cheater but
still a power cheater. In that category we have the challenge.

Issued Red cards in contests has no statistical value at all. We know by
fact (at least I do), more than one WRTC operator have managed to avoid Red
Cards for Unclaimed Assistance, but still ended up in WRTC as a result of
power cheating. To prove power cheating requires physical presence at the
station - or sound and very extensive RBN analysis, with several proved
reference stations in the very same geographical area as reference.

What contest organizers need to do, is to apply Out of the Box approach to
packet cheating and involve statistical expertise on highest level, for
development of methods how to prove packet cheating. It is possible
according to my view to detect the majority of cluster cheaters at least
among those who compete for WRTC.

Main problem however is lack of ethics among many of present WRTC
participants, who with red faces become quiet when issue is brought up.
There is a quiet understanding and agreement that says: "As long as I do
not use more power than my competition and still qualify - I am fine". This
opinion has to change if the right competitors for WRTC shall be selected.

Packet cheating is nothing compared to power cheating, believe me!  And...
With 700 Watts and extensive calling to big guns with good enough signal
levels under many years, I am pretty sure I know who runs legal or not.

73 de RM2D, Mats

On Friday, December 19, 2014, Martin , LU5DX <lu5dx at lucg.com.ar> wrote:

> Brian you are probably wrong,
> First of all there are no solid statistics on cheating.
> Second, packet abuse is the cheapest way of chesting.
> Third, you can tell by the red cards in several contests, most cases are
> because of unclaimed assistance.
> This is way more problematic or at least equal to power abuse.
> I am amazed, at how people (contesters), put their personal likes above
> what is best for the hobby.
>
> Martin, LU5DX
> El 18/12/2014 18:18, "brian coyne" <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk <javascript:;>>
> escribió:
>
> > Chris,
> > As one who criticised your committees decision to merge the assisted and
> > unassisted classes for single ops  on this Forum, I applaud your decision
> > to now reverse that.decision - thank you.
> >
> >
> > Whilst there may be other issues this was the important one. As a
> > traditional single ops we seek no more than to be left to operate in the
> > manner which we have always done and to compete with our peers.who
> operate
> > in the same manner Joining us with assisted ops would have destroyed
> that...
> >
> > The 10% weighting in favour of the unassisted  class appears to be very
> > equitable and fair. Concerns regarding stifling technology and cheating
> do
> > seem to be exaggerated. There is no doubt that by far  the greatest area
> of
> > cheating is illegal power and that will occur probably equally over the
> the
> > two single op classes.
> >
> >
> > I would like to thank your committee for taking on the task of running
> > WRTC 2018 and wish you every success..
> > 73,  Brian  C4Z / 5B4AIZ..
> >
> >
> >
> >  .
> >
> >
> >       From: Christian Janssen DL1MGB <dl1mgb at wrtc2018.de <javascript:;>>
> >  To: cq-contest at contesting.com <javascript:;>
> >  Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2014, 16:29
> >  Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification from DL1MGB
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > after reviewing the discussions and the criticism we received from
> > contesters worldwide, we had an internal discussion and decided the
> > following changes.
> >
> > We will split the Single Operator categories into Unassisted and
> Assisted.
> > Unassisted Single Operators will still have a weighting factor of 1.0.
> > Assisted Single Operators weighting factor will be changed to 0.9. The
> > reduced weighting factor accomodates the fact that there will be no
> > assisted operation during the WRTC competition in 2018.
> >
> > All other rules stay unchanged and are final. Please understand that
> > further changes of the qualifying rules would have a deep impact on the
> > balance of the rules requiring the re-design of the entire rule system
> from
> > scratch.
> >
> > The latest version of the qualifying rules can be downloaded at
> > http://www.wrtc2018.de.
> >
> > Good luck to all qualifiers! Nearly two months to go!
> >
> > 73s Chris DL1MGB
> > President WRTC2018 Organizing Committee
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