[CQ-Contest] Let's ban "inband", too

W0MU Mike Fatchett w0mu at w0mu.com
Sat Feb 8 12:32:52 EST 2014


The point is that you are choosing to wait.  There are many doctors 
available and some may make you wait less and some may make you wait 
more.  Just like DX you might wait longer for rare dx or a rare multiplier.

Waiting is YOUR choice.

The only reason this rule is being placed in effect is because you the 
caller can't move along.

 From the Nov/Dec 2013 NCJ

Ward N0AX writes:

"The All-Time Number one worst time waster from the other end of the QSO 
is not identifying"  "I should just train myself to move on and find 
another station to work.  Nevertheless, hugely bad sportsmanship on 
their part.  No excuse not identifying ever few QSO's at worst."

You can't manage yourself so you petition the organizers to change the 
rules.  Crazy!

Isn't contesting a competition?  When I compete in the contest it is to 
MAXIMIZE MY SCORE, not yours!  What you might consider bad sportsman 
ship is maximizing my score.  I am not intentionally wasting your time 
by not Identifying, I happen to have a huge pileup of people that know 
who I am.  What makes you so special that I need to change my operating 
habits because you happened to find me?

Where do we want to take this?  QRP stations can be weak, yet I have to 
waste my time trying to pull them out of the noise?  We should require 
that all stations run 1500 watts and tribanders or better at 50 ft?  How 
about code speed.  Maybe we need to regulate it so you must send between 
35-40wpm.  Anything less and you are wasting my time and anything less 
than the above is poor sportsmanship right?

Was it poor sportsmanship in the Superbowl for the Seattle defenders to 
crush, hold, push, shove, impede the Denver receivers, some of which 
could be considered against the rules, even though the officials didn't 
throw a flag?  NO.  There was no mention of Seattle being poor sports 
was there?  Is the NFL going to change their rules so that what Seattle 
did on defense will not be allowed because they were poor sports?  NO!

Most of the posts are saying that there is an ENTITLEMENT to work each 
and every station you come across in a contest.  That is simply not true.

We need rules.  We need to enforce the ones we already have and we need 
to make them clear and concise and we need rules that can be enforced.  
Less is more in this case.

Where are the hard facts on how many stations are not identifying on a 
regular basis?  Back up the rule with hard facts.  Lacking facts this 
rule change is made because the organizers are hesitant, afraid or 
resistant to discussing the issue with the offenders.  How are we coming 
on policing the power issues?  Not very far.  The real issue is that if 
I don't send in a long I can do whatever I want and you people are still 
going to be complaining.

How are those drug laws and traffic laws working?  Nobody speeds and 
there are no drugs on the street right?

If we want to make changes then education is key not more rules. Get out 
to the contest clubs and write articles with facts not just opinions, as 
opinions are like.......etc....   Prove to me that my score is going to 
go up because I ID every contact if you can.  Real facts please.

What happened to the person running the pileup was in charge?

I agree that stations should identify on regular basis and the vast 
majority do!  I don't agree with the rule the way it is written and slid 
out under the cover of darkness.  It is not enforceable and only 
addresses competitors who send in logs.


Mike W0MU

On 2/7/2014 11:03 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
> Hah! I'm sorry Shelby, but I got a huge laugh out of this one... 
> /"//No one, on this earth, has the power to control the time of any 
> one!"/
>
> You have never sat in the waiting room for the doctor??? It's the same 
> principle but instead you're sitting in front of a radio.
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> //
> On 2/7/2014 3:34 PM, Shelby Summerville wrote:
>> XV4Y (Yan) wrote: "They are BIG-GUNS and they have the power to 
>> control the time, your time more precisely."
>>
>> No one, on this earth, has the power to control the time of any one! 
>> There are some that have that objective, but unless YOU allow it, 
>> it's just not possible!
>>
>> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>>
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