[CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB

Sat Oct 18 17:16:58 EDT 2014

There are many examples of how a unilateral claim does not a country 
make.  Haiti claims Navassa KP1 as its own territory, Dominica has 
claimed Aves Island YV0 as its own, and what a mess we have now in the 
South China Sea.  Tromelin is claimed by three countries and the Caprivi 
Strip by four.  Geyser Reef is claimed by three countries and the list 
goes on and on especially in border regions.  The problem with contest 
groups start to needlessly weigh in favor of one country over another.  
Alexander Pope said it best in 1709 when he wrote "Fools rush in where 
angels fear to tread."

Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ

On 10/18/2014 1:39 PM, Martin Monsalvo wrote:
> Certainly CQ cannot make Crimea Ukraine, becase it ALREADY is Ukraine!
> Only Russia claims Crimea as part of its own territory.
> I'm glad CQ doesn't endorse that position.
> It is fully alligned with what the international community thinks about
> this terrible situation.
> You guys seem to be asking CQ to support Russia's illegal occupation of
> Ukraine, why should CQ do that?
>
> 73,
> Martin, LU5DX
> El 18/10/2014 13:56, "Andy Melanin" <ua3dpx at mail.ru> escribió:
>
>> Martin You did not catch the sense, they are Russian citizens now, they
>> have Russian passports, they have Russian calls and they can not use
>> Ukranian calls any more. You think that the CQ can make Crimea Ukrain? I
>> think NO!
>> 73! Andy UA3DPX/RM3F
>>
>> Отправлено с iPad
>>
>> 18 окт. 2014 г., в 20:34, Martin Monsalvo <monsalvo at gmail.com> написал(а):
>>
>> A Ukrainian, not pro-russian, can use his valid Ukrainian callsign in
>> Crimea?
>> The referendum has no validity whatsoever.
>> It is like saying all CP inmigrants with a valid LU Id can vote in a
>> referendum to make Buenos Aires part of CP!
>> That is not how things  go.
>> 73,
>> Martin
>> El 18/10/2014 13:08, "Andy Melanin" <ua3dpx at mail.ru> escribió:
>>
>>> Martin, who told You that they were forced to sign Russian calls? They
>>> decided to be Russian citizens themselves :-))
>>>
>>> Отправлено с iPad
>>>
>>>> 18 окт. 2014 г., в 8:09, Martin Monsalvo <monsalvo at gmail.com>
>>> написал(а):
>>>> With all due respect and with all the appreciation I feel towards long
>>> term
>>>> friends in both Russia and Ukraine.
>>>> Crimea is not part of Russia, despite the fact that it is being
>>> illegally
>>>> annexed to it.
>>>> The international community as a whole has pronounced in favor of
>>>> Ukraine soverignity which certainly includes Crimea. Why should CQ
>>>> pronounce otherwise?
>>>> Accepting operations from Crimea with russian calls ipso facto does not
>>>> contribute to contesting nor to amateur radio at all. It would only be a
>>>> sign that our hobby doesn't care about International Law and the
>>>> Independence of Nations.
>>>> I feel for those Ukrainian stations in Crimea that are being forced to
>>> sign
>>>> russian callsigns, but this is way above contesting and  cannot be
>>>> acccepted, since it is the outcome of illegal actions that no one, but
>>>> Russia government endorses.
>>>>
>>>> Vy 73,
>>>> Martin, LU5DX
>>>> El 17/10/2014 21:58, "Andy Kazantsev" <uu0jm at bk.ru> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Edward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Вы писали 18 октября 2014 г., 0:39:53:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy, Personally, I am sorry for your situation.  And sorry that you
>>> are
>>>>>> harmed right now.  Is it not possible for you to operate using the
>>>>> Ukrainian
>>>>>> callsign?  I think that I would have worded the CQ announcement
>>>>> differently
>>>>>> but came to the same conclusion. I believe my statement would be that
>>> CQ
>>>>>> follows the DXCC and WAE country rules and also requires that a
>>> station
>>>>>> identify themselves with the DXCC/WAE country that they are in.  The
>>> DXCC
>>>>>> follows the US State Dept recognized county or territory list which I
>>>>> have
>>>>>> to assume still calls that location Ukraine.  So if you signed from
>>>>> Ukraine,
>>>>>> I don't see there being a problem.  I am assuming that WAE has no
>>>>> separate
>>>>>> country status for Crimea.
>>>>> I currently live in Russia. And shall comply with the laws of Russia.
>>>>> According to these laws, I got a call UB7K  and worked in several
>>>>> contests, including the CQ WW RTTY (4 place World, raw scores).
>>>>> Also we work CQ WPX CW 2014(UA7K) and WAE CW and SSB 2014.
>>>>> If I'm going to continue to work, only this callsign. It is my firm
>>> belief.
>>>>> I'm not asking for a separate territory of Crimea! Why mix radio with
>>>>> politics?
>>>>> This message sponsors CQ caused a storm of dissent among contesters in
>>>>> Crimea. Many are ready for these competitions. And then a week before
>>> the
>>>>> competition,
>>>>> we know that all of our training in vain.
>>>>> It is very sad and does not honor the CQ magazine  and event
>>> organizers.
>>>>> Nevertheless it I will work in this competition, because I compete
>>>>> primarily with each other.
>>>>> Last year, I set a record 16 zone and was going to beat this year it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73! Andy UB7K
>>>>> ex. UU0JM, UU7J , K1I (WRTC 2014)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed  N1UR
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>>>>> --
>>>>> С уважением,
>>>>> Andy                          mailto:uu0jm at bk.ru
>>>>>
>>>>>
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