[CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB

Sun Oct 19 07:17:32 EDT 2014

> How can Russians issue Ukranian ITU allocated callsigns???? UB????

Yuri - So you think UB7K is a Ukrainian call sign according to ITU allocation?  Double check that before you make statements about people displaying their ignorance.

This should not have anything to do with who lost lives, the United Nations, world politics or what your personal opinion is of Vladimir Putin.  

Andy has a Russian Passport, Andy has a valid license issued by Russia to operate his station.  Whether you personally like it or not, he considers himself to be Russian, lives in a location that is governed by Russia and has a Russian call sign.  

What's the problem as it relates to a radio contest?  Could it be that CQ is not wanting the multiplier to count as Russia instead of Ukraine?  CQ is so stringent on adherence to the rules that they don't want a Russian call sign to operate from a region they subjectively still want to be Ukraine?  Give me a break!  Start out by stripping the results from operations that are known to have been running more than the legal limit of the country or 1500w, whichever is less.  What is the long term goal other than ruining the life long passion for radio sport for several enthusiasts?  Do they believe they are going to have any influence on world politics or country boundaries by this action?

He should not be deprived of the enjoyment of operating in the CQ WW Contest.

Displaying my total ignorance by agreeing with everything Hans had to say on this subject...

73...Stan, K5GO (Andy's referee at WRTC2014)

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Yuri Blanarovich <k3bu at optimum.net> wrote:
> 
> Hans,
> you should stop displaying your ignorance and disrespect of international and countries regulations and memory of hams who lost their lives and licenses.
> This is not sport of playing cards or "radios", but a serious matter of licensing and having priviledge of operating transmitters according to strict regulations.
> Russia has attacked Ukraine and occupied Ukrainian territory. How can Russians issue Ukranian ITU allocated callsigns???? UB????
> Please stop spreading nonsense!!!!
> 
> Yuri, K3BU.us
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:15 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
>> 
>> For purposes of amateur radio, I don't care who is control over there.
> 
> Dead Ukrainians and passengers of Malaysian plane "care". Can Mexicans issue US ham licenses???
> 
>> A fellow hobbyist wants to play radio.  That is a fact independent of whatever bureaucratic organization currently claims the territory.
> 
> To "play" Ham radio you need to be properly licensed by proper authorities, otherwise you are a PIRATE!!!
> 
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: ve4xt at mymts.net
>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:36 PM
>> To: Matt Murphy
>> Cc: Igor Sokolov ; Publisher K2RED ; Radio K0HB ; Editor W2VU ; k5zd at charter.net ; CQ-Contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB
>> 
>> Simply accepting Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea would also be a political statement.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 17:26, "Matt Murphy"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It would seem that if CQ wishes to take a political stance on the Russian
>>> occupation of Crimea, the appropriate thing to do would be to not accept
>>> logs from any Russian stations whatsoever.
>>> 
>>> Penalizing Crimean stations achieves the opposite of the intended effect,
>>> unless the idea is to punish them for allowing the occupation to happen.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Matt NQ6N
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Igor Sokolov  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hans, thank you.
>>>> You got it absolutely right. Why should a boy who only loves radio and
>>>> contesting, why should he be penalized for whatever political games happen
>>>> around him. Why CQ magazine deprives this boy from from participation in
>>>> the contest CQ mag sponsors? Is that the purpose of this contest and ham
>>>> radio in general to divide people into first and second grade based on the
>>>> governments these people live under?
>>>> Why ARRL found may be temporary but wise solution to the problem but CQ
>>>> magazine decided that they know better and did it in their own way? Do they
>>>> understand that they do harm not only to their sponsored contest but to ham
>>>> radio in general?
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (W2VU and K2RED added to the conversation on the advice of K5ZD)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's the long and short of it from my viewpoint.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A certain boy in a certain place has a hobby radio station.  He wishes to
>>>>> participate in radiosport contests run by hobbyist magazines in another
>>>>> place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> His license conditions including how he must identify his station are
>>>>> dictated by whatever government has authority over that place at any given
>>>>> time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Other governments, rightly or wrongly, might dispute that authority, but
>>>>> the boy in that place is not subject to the authority of those other
>>>>> countries.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now those hobby magazines have decided that the politicians (in their
>>>>> country) shall be the ultimate authority whether the boy and his radio (in
>>>>> another country) are eligible to play in their contest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Methinks the hobby magazines are taking themselves far too seriously, and
>>>>> in an international hobby have cloaked themselves in misplaced provincial
>>>>> patriotism.
>>>>> 
>>>>> dit dit
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>>>>> --
>>>>> Proud Member of:
>>>>> . A1 Operators - http://www.arrl.org/a-1-op
>>>>> . Minnesota Wireless contesters - http://www.W0AA.org
>>>>> . Arizona Outlaws contesters - http://www.arizonaoutlaws.net
>>>>> . Twin City DX Assn - http://www.tcdxa.org
>>>>> . Minnesota Amateur Radio Technical Society - http://www.mn-arts.org/
>>>>> . Lake Vermilion DX Assn - http://www.lvdxa.org
>>>>> . Royal Naval Amateur Radio Society - http://www.rnars.org.uk/
>>>>> . SOC - http://www.qsl.net/soc
>>>>> . CW Operators Club – http://www.cwops.org
>>>>> . SKCC - http://www.skccgroup.com/
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Randy Thompson K5ZD
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:23 PM
>>>>> To: 'Andy Kazantsev' ; 'CQ-Contest'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB
>>>>> 
>>>>> The CQ WW Contest Committee was very divided on this issue. The Editor and
>>>>> Publisher of CQ Magazine have made this policy decision. Any comments or
>>>>> appeals should be directed to CQ.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Randy, K5ZD
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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