[CQ-Contest] Excessive Bandwidth Rule was: Re: Suggestion for Cabrillo -- and the phone skimmer, new idea

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

I have never understood thought process behind not publicly "outing" the 
offenders.  Most of them know they have crappy or very wide audio.  They 
do it on purpose.

The best medicine would to pass these lousy signals by but people won't 
because they have to have that one contact, at least tell them their 
audio is lousy and you hope that nobody reports them, ahem.....

Mike W0MU

On 4/10/2015 5:09 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> Not only that, but the number of awards thereafter could be halved, 
> saving ARRL and other societies lots of money.
>
> But seriously, folks, can you imagine the mess that would result if 
> the same phone ops who "amuse" us with their lousy audio added either 
> subaudible tones or 100 wpm CW to their awful signals.
>
> I'm waiting with interest to see whether CQWW follows through on rule 
> XII (A) (5) and disciplines at least a few stations for 
> excessivebandwidth.  I'm not interested in outing a list of those 
> disciplined, necessarily, but I hope at least the number of actions 
> taken is made public, so that people know the committee is serious.  
> With the tools now available, in particular whole contest recordings 
> and SDR panadaptors, it should be possible to objectively define 
> excessive bandwidth (e.g., level in dB relative to peak amplitude, 
> versus frequency difference).
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
> On 4/10/2015 12:55 AM, Bokverket wrote:
>> ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----
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>> Till: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Skickat: den 9 april 2015 13:15
>> Ämne: Suggestion for Cabrillo -- and the phone skimmer, new idea
>>
>>
>> Rarely do one's wishes be fulfilled so soon, even retroactively!
>>
>> Goran/SM0DRD, who thinks that hte subaudible tones that someone 
>> mentioned
>> would be a great step towards a quick realization of the phone 
>> skimmer. But
>> even better would be *** combining cw and SSB into one signal ***  
>> The cw
>> could be sent at 100 or something wpm like a rattle, just as with those
>> obsolete spy transmissions. It won't disturb the audio since there is so
>> much overdrive noise already, and can then be detected easily by a new
>> version of the cw skimmer.
>>
>> But what's more, we could halve the number of contests!!! Save countless
>> $$'s and marriages.  And for die-hard cw only people, the number of 
>> contacts
>> will increase and the extra transmitted phone messages can be 
>> automatically
>> generated.
>>
>> 73,
>> Goran/SM0DRD
>>
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