[CQ-Contest] Where have all the young ones gone? courtesy of Pete Seeger

[Radio K0HB]

Actually, Joe, the FCC doesn't say you can't be paid.

It says your operations as a ham must be "without pecuniary interest".

Now receiving a "fancy certificate, suitable for framing" might be loosely 
be interpreted as "being paid", but it does not rise to the level of 
"pecuniary interest".

The term "pecuniary interest" has quite a narrow legal and financial 
definition which involves money or instruments negotiable for cash, not 
plaques or certificates.

73, de Hans, K0HB

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:35 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where have all the young ones gone? courtesy of 
Pete Seeger

Is it a gray line here?

I always wondered about this some.  Is a "Prize" being getting paid to
operate the radio?

To me is isn't because there is no guarantee you're going to get
anything for operating the radio.

If you place last you don't get anything, if you place like in the top
ten you get a piece of paper, so no problems there.

But if you place first, in many contests you get a pretty nice plaque to
display. I have one right here on my wall from taking first place in the
Wisconsin QSO Party Single Op Fixed station in 1989. Now while that
chunk of walnut wood with the brass engraving isn't worth a K3. but it
does have value does it not? At least personally to me is does. even tho
monetarily it is not a lot.

BUT if you really wanted to be picky did I not get paid something by
getting that plaque by operating my radio?

There must be a positive way to differ between a Paid vs a prize. ya know?

But of course wouldn't it be cool that if it was possible in some of the
ultra major contests to be able to win something. like a radio or something.

Joe WB9SBD

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On 4/23/2015 8:17 AM, Keith Dutson wrote:
> No mistake in the USA, where making money with ham radio is against the 
> law.
>
> I am involved in all sorts of projects to enrich ham radio, but rarely 
> find
> ANY ham willing to help.  I am always looking for a way to turn this
> attitude around.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Bokverket
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:10 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where have all the young ones gone? courtesy of Pete
> Seeger
>
> Reading Colin's post,  the ham radio contesting community must have made
> some mistake somewhere along the road. Where is the prize money?  Big 
> outlay
> for antenna farms, a diploma as reward.  ESports small outlay for the app,
> big rewards in terms of ad money as you are watched playing on YouTube,
> sponsors etc.
>
> Ad money goes where the audiences are.  Of course YouTube and related
> technology was not available "back then", but with the fabled 
> inventiveness
> of hams, why didn't we invent it?  Like we (VE3...) did with the Skimmer, 
> DX
> cluster, repeaters.  And seriously, judging from some YouTube clips of
> contesters, what's the fun watching someone yelling CQ contest and saying
> some strange letters plus typing at a keyboard and staring at some dials?
>
> Best, reminiscencing,
>
> Goran/SM0DRD
>
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